A ‘Threat,’ a ‘Drug Deal’ and a ‘Troubling’ Call: Key Testimony in the Impeachment Inquiry – International New York Times
In a stark break with diplomatic protocol, President Trump used a cadre of associates to conduct back-channel communications with Ukraine to pressure its government to investigate Democrats, according to witnesses testifying in the impeachment hearings. Heres what key witnesses say happened:
Mr. Trump leaned heavily on his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, and a handful of other officials to carry out his wishes regarding Ukraine.
Rudolph W. Giuliani
Mr. Trumps personal lawyer
Gordon D. Sondland
Donor turned E.U. ambassador
Kurt D. Volker
Former special envoy to Ukraine
Rick Perry
Energy secretary
Mick Mulvaney
Acting White House chief of staff
George P. Kent
Senior State Department official
Marie L. Yovanovitch
Former ambassador to Ukraine
William B. Taylor Jr.
Top American diplomat in Ukraine
Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman
White House Ukraine expert
John R. Bolton
Former White House national security adviser
Fiona Hill
Former White House Russia expert
Tim Morrison
Former senior White House national security aide
William B. Taylor Jr., top American diplomat in Ukraine
I found a confusing and unusual arrangement for making U.S. policy toward Ukraine. There appeared to be two channels of U.S. policy-making and implementation, one regular and one highly irregular.
Oct. 22 opening statement
Fiona Hill, former White House Russia expert
Mr. Giuliani was asserting quite frequently on television in public appearances that he had been given some authority over matters related to Ukraine, and if that was the case, we hadnt been informed about that.
Oct. 14 testimony
Mick Mulvaney, acting White House chief of staff
You may not like the fact that Giuliani was involved. Thats great. Thats fine. Its not illegal. Its not impeachable. The president gets to use who he wants to use.
Oct. 17 White House briefing
Marie L. Yovanovitch, former ambassador to Ukraine
I do not know Mr. Giulianis motives for attacking me. But individuals who have been named in the press who have contact with Mr. Giuliani may well have believed that their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in Ukraine.
Oct. 11 opening statement
George P. Kent, senior State Department official
His assertions and allegations against former Ambassador Yovanovitch were without basis, untrue, period.
Oct. 15 testimony
Marie L. Yovanovitch, former ambassador to Ukraine
It sounded like a threat.
Nov. 15 testimony
According to some witnesses, the group operated outside of the governments official policy channel, which is made up of national security aides in the White House and diplomats at the State Department.
In testimony, some witnesses disputed the idea that there was an irregular channel. Gordon D. Sondland, the ambassador to the European Union, pointed to messages and phone calls in which he kept the White House and State Department, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, informed of his actions.
Many members of the official channel were dismayed that Mr. Giuliani was playing a direct role in policy toward Ukraine.
Dr. Hill was in charge of coordinating Ukraine policy across the federal government.
Mick Mulvaney, who several witnesses said gave directives related to Ukraine, has defended Mr. Giulianis involvement.
Beginning in late 2018, Mr. Giuliani and his associates conducted a months-long smear campaign that resulted in the ouster of Marie L. Yovanovitch, a longtime diplomat who had been serving as ambassador to Ukraine.
In a July call with the president of Ukraine, Mr. Trump brought up Ms. Yovanovitch, describing her as bad news, adding, Shes going to go through some things. Ms. Yovanovitch testified that she was devastated when she found out.
Soon after Volodymyr Zelensky was elected president of Ukraine, Mr. Trump appeared to use a highly sought White House visit as leverage.
Gordon D. Sondland, donor turned E.U. ambassador
Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.
Nov. 20 opening statement
Gordon D. Sondland, donor turned E.U. ambassador
Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.
Nov. 20 opening statement
Fiona Hill, former White House Russia expert
This is a direct quote from Ambassador Bolton: You go and tell Eisenberg that I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up on this.
Oct. 14 testimony
Kurt D. Volker, former special envoy to Ukraine
Heard from White Houseassuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / get to the bottom of what happened in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.
Text message to Mr. Yermak
Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, White House Ukraine expert
The parts that were particularly troubling was the references to conducting an investigation.
Oct. 29 testimony
William B. Taylor Jr., top American diplomat in Ukraine
The member of my staff asked Ambassador Sondland what President Trump thought about Ukraine. Ambassador Sondland responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden.
Nov. 13 opening statement
Gordon D. Sondland, donor turned E.U. ambassador
I recall no discussions with any State Department or White House official about Former Vice President Biden or his son, nor do I recall taking part in any effort to encourage an investigation into the Bidens.
Oct. 17 opening statement
Kurt D. Volker, former special envoy to Ukraine
Had a good chat with Yermak last night. He was pleased with your phone call. Mentioned Z making a statement. Can we all get on the phone to make sure I advise Z correctly as to what he should be saying?
Text message to Mr. Giuliani
Gordon D. Sondland, donor turned E.U. ambassador
Do we still want Ze to give us an unequivocal draft with 2016 and Boresma?
Text message to Mr. Volker
Kurt D. Volker, former special envoy to Ukraine
At no time was I aware of or took part in an effort to urge Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden.
Oct. 3 opening statement
Fiona Hill, former White House Russia expert
It is not credible to me at all that he was oblivious.
Nov. 21 testimony
In a meeting after Mr. Zelenskys inauguration, Mr. Trump directed three officials, whom some referred to as the three amigos, to work through Mr. Giuliani about his concerns related to Ukraine.
Burisma is a Ukrainian gas company that hired Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., to serve on its board.
Dr. Hill testified that Mr. Sondland was involved in a domestic political errand, diverging from the regular Ukraine policy.
John R. Bolton, then Mr. Trumps national security adviser, was furious when he found out on July 10 that Mr. Trumps meeting with Mr. Zelensky was being predicated on the Ukrainian president announcing investigations, according to Dr. Hills testimony.
Mr. Bolton, who is waiting for a judge to rule on whether he should testify, was referring to John A. Eisenberg, the chief legal adviser for the National Security Council.
On the morning of the call at the center of the whistle-blower complaint, Mr. Volker texted one of Mr. Zelenskys top advisers, Andrey Yermak.
During the July 25 call, Mr. Trump asked Mr. Zelensky to do us a favor and find out what happened. Two White House officials who listened in on the call were concerned by what they had heard.
Mr. Trump has repeatedly said he did nothing wrong and that his call with Mr. Zelensky was perfect.
The day after the phone call, an aide to Mr. Taylor overheard a telephone conversation in Kyiv between Mr. Trump and Mr. Sondland in which they appeared to discuss the investigations. Mr. Sondland did not mention the conversation in his original testimony, but he later confirmed that it had occurred.
Text messages written by Mr. Volker and Mr. Sondland over the summer show that the two men attempted to get the Ukrainian president to make a statement about the investigations.
In testimony, Mr. Volker later claimed he did not realize Burisma was connected to the Biden family.
Mr. Sondland testified that until as late as September, he also did not realize that Burisma was linked to the Bidens. Other witnesses said that they had understood in the spring and summer that Burisma was code for the Bidens.
National security officials learned in a July meeting that Mr. Trump had directed Mr. Mulvaney to hold up $391 million in aid to Ukraine. The meeting was described in the whistle-blower complaint and corroborated by several witnesses.
William B. Taylor Jr., top American diplomat in Ukraine
In an instant, I realized that one of the key pillars of our strong support for Ukraine was threatened. The irregular policy channel was running contrary to the goals of longstanding U.S. policy.
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