The Second Amendment vs. the Seventh Amendment: The Distinction Between Substantive and Procedural Rights – Reason
Following my piece in the Northwestern Law Review, the last post compared the individual accountability and understanding of responsibilities of gun owners and civil jurors. In this post, I turn to the second major difference between the Second and Seventh Amendments: the distinction between substantive and procedural rights.
Here some definitions are in order. For purposes of this argument, what is a substantive or a procedural right? The meaning of the terms "substance" and "procedure" are not always obvious. The line can be blurry. There will always be some degree of arbitrariness in drawing any legal line, including a line between substance and procedure. Also, a line between categories may be drawn in different places for different purposes.
For purposes of this framework for constitutional rights, substantive rules govern primary conduct outside litigation. That primary conduct may be either the citizen's or the government's. Clear substantive rules provide better guidance about what conduct is permitted and what is not. They improve knowledge of the law, and predictability of the system.
Procedural rules, by contrast, regulate the means by which government adjudicates certain disputes. Separate rules of procedure allow the procedural system to focus more precisely on efficiency and accuracy of adjudication. Again, this enhances knowledge of consequences and predictability. In short, the distinction between substance and procedure is important to the rule of law.
Not everything in the U.S. Constitution is a substantive or procedural right. The vast majority of the provisions of the U.S. Constitution are structural provisions; they set out the rules for establishing and running the federal government and its relations to the states and to foreign powers. Substantive and procedural rights are not structural in this sense.
Applying this distinction between substance and procedure, here is a table setting out the division among the provisions of the first eight amendments to the U.S. Constitution:
Division Among the Provisions of the First Eight Amendments to theU.S. Constitution
Some classifications in this table may seem surprising. Two special notes are in order. First, the Eighth Amendment bans on excessive fines and cruel and unusual punishments are classified as substantive rights. The punishment that may be imposed for crime has traditionally, and rightly, been understood as part of substantive criminal law, not procedure. In contrast, the method of sentencing is procedural.
Second, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures, the first clause of the Fourth Amendment, is a substantive right. But, to a large extent, the U.S. Supreme Court has transformed that substantive right into a procedural right. This happened in the decision to require the exclusionary rule as a constitutional matter. Instead of the focus being on the substantive rightwas a search or seizure unreasonable?the focus is on whether evidence will be excluded from a criminal trial. But the U.S. Supreme Court has been slowly peeling away the procedural right of exclusion, so there is hope for a more substantive emphasis.
To elaborate further on the distinction between substantive and procedural rights, a "substantive" right does not purport to require a particular procedure in the legal system, and it is compatible with a variety of possible legal systems, including adversarial and inquisitorial systems. In contrast, a specific "procedural" right attempts to ensure the availability of a particular practice to an individual in a legal proceeding, or to require a government official in a legal proceeding to follow a particular practice. These provisions are not compatible with a wide variety of legal systems. They shape a legal system.
In this framework, the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms is clearly a substantive right. It's compatible with a variety of legal systems, and does not affect the means of adjudication. On the other hand, the Seventh Amendment right to civil jury trial is not compatible with various legal systems and very much affects the means of adjudication. It's a procedural right.
At the end of Federalist No. 83, Hamilton issued a strong warning against constitutionalizing a right to civil jury trial. Concerning the civil jury, he explained, there was need for flexibility to accommodate "the changes which are continually happening in the affairs of society." England, as well as the American states, had reduced the use of civil jury trial, which suggested that its previous extent had been "found inconvenient." There was reason to suspect, he wrote, that this process of limiting the use of juries would continue. In the case of civil jury trial, Hamilton wrote, "I suspect it to be impossible in the nature of the thing, to fix the salutary point at which the operation of the institution ought to stop; and this is with me a strong argument for leaving the matter to the discretion of the legislature." It was better to rely on the structure of government for permanent effects, rather than particular rights. "Particular provisions, though not altogether useless, have far less virtue and efficacy than are commonly ascribed to them ."
But the Anti-Federalists rejected Hamilton's warnings about piecemeal rights and insisted on a constitutional right to civil jury trial. To avoid what he saw as a real danger of a second constitutional convention, James Madison drafted a series of amendments to the new Constitution that included a right to civil jury trial, in what became the Seventh Amendment. (See Rene Lettow Lerner, The Failure of Originalism in Preserving Constitutional Rights to Civil Jury Trial, 22 William & Mary Bill of Rights Journal 811, 827-828 & n. 96 (2014).)
The danger that Hamilton warned aboutof putting a straitjacket on legislatures and blocking useful reformis powerful but subtle with respect to procedural rights. Substantive rights have a core that can be meaningfully interpreted and protected. They can exist independently of a particular government or a particular legal system. Thus the addition or subtraction of a substantive right does not alter the legal system, the means of adjudicating cases, as a whole. But procedural rights are different. Procedural rights do not have such an independent core because they are necessarily embedded in a whole system of legal procedure. They alter that system, and they depend on that system for their meaning.
The next post demonstrates that specific procedural rights are not compatible with all legal systems; they block reform. The U.S. Supreme Court's struggles over incorporation of federal constitutional provisions against the states reflect these problems with procedural rights.
Continue reading here:
The Second Amendment vs. the Seventh Amendment: The Distinction Between Substantive and Procedural Rights - Reason
- Legal Adults, Limited Rights: The Second Amendment Fight For 1820-Year-Olds - concealedcarry.com - May 5th, 2025 [May 5th, 2025]
- Making the Fourth Amendment the New Second Amendment - The Assembly NC - May 5th, 2025 [May 5th, 2025]
- Federal Government Urges S. Ct. to Take Second Amendment Case - Reason Magazine - May 5th, 2025 [May 5th, 2025]
- Trumps Second 100 Days and the Second Amendment | An Official Journal Of The NRA - Americas 1st Freedom - May 5th, 2025 [May 5th, 2025]
- This Bill Doesnt Ban GunsIt Dismantles the Second Amendment Another Way - The Truth About Guns - May 5th, 2025 [May 5th, 2025]
- NRAs John Richardson admits he cant stand listening to Trump despite praising Second Amendment support - The Mirror US - April 30th, 2025 [April 30th, 2025]
- Trump administration says machine guns arent protected by Second Amendment - Washington Times - April 30th, 2025 [April 30th, 2025]
- Colorado Escalates its War on the Second Amendment : News Article - Independent Institute - April 25th, 2025 [April 25th, 2025]
- Stop the Second Amendment insanity | Letters to the editor - Sun Sentinel - April 25th, 2025 [April 25th, 2025]
- Labrador Backs DOJs Second Amendment Task Force, Joining Other States - Idaho Dispatch - April 25th, 2025 [April 25th, 2025]
- Voices of the Second Amendment Launches Live from NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits - NRA Women - April 21st, 2025 [April 21st, 2025]
- Oswego Village Board approves second amendment of econoimic incentive agreement with Freddie's Off the Chain, increasing total grant funding to... - April 21st, 2025 [April 21st, 2025]
- Bills Protecting Veteran Second Amendment Rights Hit The House And Senate - The Truth About Guns - April 21st, 2025 [April 21st, 2025]
- Feenstra Leads Legislation to Protect Second Amendment Rights of Law-Abiding Renters and Tenants - Mix 107.3 KIOW - April 21st, 2025 [April 21st, 2025]
- Second Amendment advocate fires back against controversial gun bill: This is going to cost lives in the long run - MyNorthwest.com - April 3rd, 2025 [April 3rd, 2025]
- Restoration of Second Amendment Rights After They Are Lost - The Truth About Guns - April 3rd, 2025 [April 3rd, 2025]
- House Republicans Honor Second Amendment Promises, Advance Key Legislation - National Shooting Sports Foundation - March 28th, 2025 [March 28th, 2025]
- Congress poised to strengthen Second Amendment rights with national concealed carry reciprocity - Washington Times - March 28th, 2025 [March 28th, 2025]
- Senators team up to support proposed legislation protecting veterans Second Amendment rights - Washington Examiner - March 28th, 2025 [March 28th, 2025]
- Governor vetoes local lawmakers Second Amendment Protection Act bill - County 10 News - March 28th, 2025 [March 28th, 2025]
- Second Amendment Roundup: Court Seems Disposed to Rule for S&W and Against Mexico - Reason - March 13th, 2025 [March 13th, 2025]
- Governor Murphys Latest Plan is to Tax the Second Amendment Rights of New Jerseyans - Shore News Network - March 5th, 2025 [March 5th, 2025]
- Second Amendment Protection Act changes head to governor's desk - Wyoming Tribune - March 5th, 2025 [March 5th, 2025]
- WY: TELL THE GOVERNOR Support Second Amendment Protections! - Gun Owners of America - March 5th, 2025 [March 5th, 2025]
- Second Amendment Protection Act changes head to governor's desk - Wyoming News Now - March 5th, 2025 [March 5th, 2025]
- Gun Advocates Demand Results After Second Amendment Executive Order - MSN - March 5th, 2025 [March 5th, 2025]
- Could The Washington Post Go Pro-Second Amendment? | An Official Journal Of The NRA - America's 1st Freedom - March 1st, 2025 [March 1st, 2025]
- Second Amendment Concerns Raised After Long Island Village Bans All Gun and Ammo Sales - MSN - March 1st, 2025 [March 1st, 2025]
- Trumps bold move to strengthen the Second Amendment - Washington Times - February 27th, 2025 [February 27th, 2025]
- After York County shootings, its time to update the Second Amendment [letter] - LNP | LancasterOnline - February 27th, 2025 [February 27th, 2025]
- NSSF Praises South Dakotas Gov. Larry Rhoden for Protecting Second Amendment Privacy - National Shooting Sports Foundation - February 27th, 2025 [February 27th, 2025]
- Fear not the endless presidency: The Twenty-second Amendment - Convention of States Action - February 27th, 2025 [February 27th, 2025]
- New Florida bill would strengthen Second Amendment rights at colleges and universities - Campus Reform - February 27th, 2025 [February 27th, 2025]
- How USAID Funded the War on the Second Amendment | An Official Journal Of The NRA - America's 1st Freedom - February 14th, 2025 [February 14th, 2025]
- Bills affect homeless, addresses wildfires, makes OK a Second Amendment sanctuary state - Yahoo - February 14th, 2025 [February 14th, 2025]
- Trump Issues Executive Order: Protecting Second Amendment Rights Where are we now? - Firearms News - February 12th, 2025 [February 12th, 2025]
- Executive Order 14206Protecting Second Amendment Rights - The American Presidency Project - February 12th, 2025 [February 12th, 2025]
- Trump is protecting the Second Amendment - Washington Times - February 12th, 2025 [February 12th, 2025]
- Trump Signs Executive Order Strengthening Second Amendment | An Official Journal Of The NRA - American Hunter - February 12th, 2025 [February 12th, 2025]
- Executive Order Seeks to Protect Second Amendment After Prior Administration - Turning Point USA - February 12th, 2025 [February 12th, 2025]
- Executive Order on the Second Amendment, which doesn't need any help - Daily Kos - February 12th, 2025 [February 12th, 2025]
- NRA Statement on President Trumps Executive Order Protecting Second Amendment Rights - NRA Women - February 9th, 2025 [February 9th, 2025]
- President Trump signs executive order 'protecting Second Amendment rights' - Buckeye Firearms Association - February 9th, 2025 [February 9th, 2025]
- Trump starts unwinding Biden regulations that infringe on Second Amendment rights of Americans - Must Read Alaska - February 9th, 2025 [February 9th, 2025]
- White House Wields Executive Power to Bolster Second Amendment: - Hoodline - February 9th, 2025 [February 9th, 2025]
- DeSantis Second Amendment Summer is more about his aspirations than Floridas budget | Opinion - Miami Herald - February 5th, 2025 [February 5th, 2025]
- Dueling Gun Groups Strike Truce To Push Wyoming Second Amendment Rights Bill - Cowboy State Daily - February 5th, 2025 [February 5th, 2025]
- Trump AG Pick: I Am an Advocate for the Second Amendment, but I Will Enforce the Laws of the Land - The Reload - January 19th, 2025 [January 19th, 2025]
- Second Amendment advocates skeptical of Pam Bondi - Washington Examiner - January 19th, 2025 [January 19th, 2025]
- Federal Judges (Still) Have No Earthly Idea What to Do With the Supreme Courts Second Amendment Cases - Balls & Strikes - January 19th, 2025 [January 19th, 2025]
- Tuberville, Britt reintroduce pro-second amendment Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act - Yellowhammer News - January 19th, 2025 [January 19th, 2025]
- Donald Trump Jr. says younger people are getting into the Second Amendment amid GrabAGun SPAC deal - Fox Business - January 9th, 2025 [January 9th, 2025]
- GrabAGun, a Mobile-Focused Online Firearms Retailer Defending the Second Amendment, to Become a Public Company through a Business Combination with... - January 9th, 2025 [January 9th, 2025]
- Secretary Gray Calls on Wyoming Legislature to Protect Second Amendment Rights by Repealing Gun Free Zones - Sheridan Media - January 9th, 2025 [January 9th, 2025]
- Bernstine Takes Oath of Office, Committed to Protecting Second Amendment Rights, Fighting Wasteful Spending - EllwoodCity.org - January 9th, 2025 [January 9th, 2025]
- NRA-ILA demonstrates its influence in advancing Second Amendment causes - Buckeye Firearms Association - December 18th, 2024 [December 18th, 2024]
- Availability of a second Amendment to the 2023 Universal Registration Document - Yahoo Finance - December 14th, 2024 [December 14th, 2024]
- Justices Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch Signal Readiness to Revisit Second Amendment Licensing Disputes - USA Herald - December 14th, 2024 [December 14th, 2024]
- Supreme Court Passes On Chance To Correct Hawaii Ruling Finding Spirit Of Aloha Trumps Second Amendment - Daily Caller - December 10th, 2024 [December 10th, 2024]
- AG nominee Pam Bondi's mixed record on Second Amendment raises 'red flags' - Buckeye Firearms Association - December 8th, 2024 [December 8th, 2024]
- Nearly 100 Anti-Second Amendment Measures Proposed To Texas Legislature - Firearms News - December 8th, 2024 [December 8th, 2024]
- Sen. Cruz Takes Stand to Stop Mexico from Violating U.S. Constitution & Second Amendment - Texas Border Business - December 8th, 2024 [December 8th, 2024]
- Sen. Cruz Leads Bicameral Amicus Urging Supreme Court to Uphold American Sovereignty and the Second Amendment - TexasGOPVote - December 8th, 2024 [December 8th, 2024]
- The bill aims to protect Texans Second Amendment rights by blocking enforcement of extreme risk protective orders - The Dallas Express - December 8th, 2024 [December 8th, 2024]
- Trumps New Attorney General Pick Should Face Tough Questions at Confirmation. She Flouts the Second Amendment - The Stream - November 26th, 2024 [November 26th, 2024]
- Ames Moot Court Competition takes on the Second Amendment - Harvard Law School - November 26th, 2024 [November 26th, 2024]
- State Leaders Take Aim at the Second Amendment - The Dallas Express - November 26th, 2024 [November 26th, 2024]
- Trump's victory over Harris proves 'Second Amendment won,' gun rights groups say - Fox News - November 16th, 2024 [November 16th, 2024]
- Mecklenburg Co. Sheriff's Office stripping sober gun owners of their Second Amendment right - WCNC.com - November 16th, 2024 [November 16th, 2024]
- Where John Thune Stands on Gun Control and the Second Amendment - Guns.com - November 16th, 2024 [November 16th, 2024]
- Elections have consequences, particularly when it comes to the Second Amendment - Rome Sentinel - November 10th, 2024 [November 10th, 2024]
- Analysis: Can Arms in Common Use be Banned Under the Second Amendment? [Member Exclusive] - The Reload - November 2nd, 2024 [November 2nd, 2024]
- Where the Harris/Walz Ticket Stands on the Second Amendment - Catalyst - November 2nd, 2024 [November 2nd, 2024]
- Harris Claims She, Not Trump, Will Defend the Second Amendment | An Official Journal Of The NRA - America's 1st Freedom - November 2nd, 2024 [November 2nd, 2024]
- An NRA Shooting Sports Journal | Royce Gracie Speaks Out About NRA And The Second Amendment - Shooting Sports USA - October 29th, 2024 [October 29th, 2024]
- Future of SCOTUS and Second Amendment rights on the ballot - Buckeye Firearms Association - October 29th, 2024 [October 29th, 2024]
- A Second Amendment Rally Like No Other - MSN - October 29th, 2024 [October 29th, 2024]
- Second Amendment Voters Arent Buying Harriss Pandering But Theyre Glad She Feels Compelled to Try - National Review - October 29th, 2024 [October 29th, 2024]
- Elon Musk Gets to the Basis of the Second Amendment | An Official Journal Of The NRA - America's 1st Freedom - October 29th, 2024 [October 29th, 2024]
- Hovde and Baldwin on the Second Amendment and gun control - PBS Wisconsin - October 21st, 2024 [October 21st, 2024]