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Fist of Etiquette|8.3.17 @ 9:00AM|#

The Trump administration wants to cut legal immigration to the U.S. by 50 percent.

And raise illegal immigration 50%?

OM Nullum gratuitum prandium|8.3.17 @ 9:10AM|#

100%, Fist. It would be 100%.

Trumpistas think that reducing immigration will make Americans work again. Just like Prohibitionists really believed Prohibition would turn America into a nation of teetotalers.

some guy|8.3.17 @ 9:22AM|#

I don't know about most Republicans, but Jeff Sessions would be happy turning everyone into a criminal.

BestUsedCarSales|8.3.17 @ 9:32AM|#

He already knows we all are.

Tony|8.3.17 @ 11:35AM|#

If this isn't a nation of criminals then why are there so many prison cells in it?

timbo|8.3.17 @ 12:38PM|#

I'm tired of explaining it to you

Bless your heart.

Finrod|8.3.17 @ 1:19PM|#

Too late, everyone on average already commits three felonies a day.

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 1:30PM|#

Some of us commit way more....

Fist of Etiquette|8.3.17 @ 9:34AM|#

Neither 50% nor 100% is correct. We need to take time to do the math on this. The answer is actually 110%, because that's the effort President Trump gives every day.

timbo|8.3.17 @ 10:47AM|#

Trump: a liar, a buffoon, a statist, a war monger, a big government asshole, a protectionist, and does not appear to be very bright when it comes to free market economics.

And yet all of Washington DC and the corrupt propaganda press hates his guts and he has already done some work to roll back business crippling regulations.

There is some value there.

Is the enemy of my enemy my friend or the enemy of my enemy my enemy or is trump just playing foil to the scam and they are all deep down just colluding to protect the FED, the military-ind complex, entitlements, and to keep the debt rolling? Our largest yokes around the neck are untouchable still.

Tony|8.3.17 @ 11:37AM|#

He just bragged about corporate profits and stocks. How are businesses being crippled?

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 1:31PM|#

Government over-regulation 101

Eek Barba Durkle|8.3.17 @ 9:37AM|#

I'm willing to volunteer to help raise the number of anchor babies being born. Because I'm a patriot.

OM Nullum gratuitum prandium|8.3.17 @ 10:20AM|#

There's no such thing as an "anchor baby". Only adults of 21 years of age can sponsor their parents or siblings.

Curt|8.3.17 @ 11:20AM|#

I think the "anchor baby" fear is both more focused on the longer term implications (i.e. eventually that "anchor baby" will turn 21 and bring their family into US) and the soft feelz implications (i.e. Republicans don't seem so bad when their bouncing illegal immigrants, but they seem horribly cruel when they're throwing out an illegal immigrant who has a baby that's an american citizen; and that parent has to make the heart-wrenching decision of whether or not to leave their baby in the US).

So, yeah, there is such thing. No opinion offered on how valid that concern is.

Hi Tony!|8.3.17 @ 1:22PM|#

Jesus Christ, that's not what an anchor baby is you fucking idiot.

Tom Bombadil|8.3.17 @ 11:08AM|#

I do a lot of work with unwed mothers. You know, helping them get their start.

Curt|8.3.17 @ 11:14AM|#

Regardless of how much it raises illegal immigration (and it would), it also proves the ridiculous of the position claimed by him and his many supporters that they're cool with legal immigration... just not illegal. But, I'm sure we can all agree that too many legal immigrants was one of the biggest problems we were facing?

"President Donald Trump's approval rating has dropped to 33 percent in a new poll."

Wasn't it at about 20% when he was elected?

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 11:31AM|#

They are cool with legal immigration, just less of it. They are against any illegal immigrants being here.

Why is ~330M people in America not enough? Why do we HAVE to have hundreds of thousands more immigrants come here rather than thousands each year?

paranoid android|8.3.17 @ 11:38AM|#

1. Making more people into Americans makes the world a better place and is the right thing to do

2. Trump's stated reasons attempting to justify this policy are largely bogus

3. No one in their right mind would trust Trump to find the right setting for a thermostat, much less set immigration levels for an entire nation

Rhywun|8.3.17 @ 11:54AM|#

I don't care about the numbers so much as the "skilled" part.

So the cries of "tearing families apart!" from the usual suspects are largely BS. What a surprise.

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 12:04PM|#

1. Why is allowing more people into America making the World a better place and is right?

2. Politicians are largely liars and flip-flop. Trump said he wanted to control immigration and he has. Definitely there has been better control on immigration policy than most administrations in the last 40+ years.

3. Is there a "right" setting? I support zero illegal immigration and less legal immigration. 50%+ less legal immigration is fine with me.

paranoid android|8.3.17 @ 12:14PM|#

1. LOL

2. LMAO

3. ROFLMAOWTFBBQMAGA

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 12:21PM|#

1. Still refusing to answer.

2. laughing at you.

3. still laughing at you.

paranoid android|8.3.17 @ 12:23PM|#

Jokes aside, it's more than you deserve, but I'll try to answer honestly:

1. I wouldn't be here if my ancestors hadn't risked everything they had to cross the ocean to get here, for which I am eternally grateful. Anyone suffering in their own country who is willing to work hard and make a better life for themselves deserves that same chance.

2. Don't feel the need to respond to meaningless pro-Trump propaganda

3. Why do you want any legal immigration at all? What would you say to a Trump supporter who thinks the proper amount of legal immigration is zero?

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 12:42PM|#

They weren't jokes though. You were trying to be serious.

1. Congratulations on your ancestors probably going thru Ellis Island or San Francisco port authority. They were allowed to come and become Americans because as many new Americans were needed to make develop America. How would letting in immigrants to America make the World a better place? It lets people off the hook to make THEIR country better.

See your assumption is flawed. There are already hundreds of millions of hard working Americans who want a better life. Non-Americans don't deserve shit from America. If we Americans want to let in thousands of immigrants, then so be it.

2. I know propaganda is only things you don't like. You don't like immigration controls, so when Trump ran on immigration controls and is doing it, you call it propaganda.

3. I personally don't care if there is zero immigration. That is not fair to Americans who marry foreigners but for all other non-Americans, I don't really care. I would say that zero immigration should only last a couple years and then re-evaluate the policy.

paranoid android|8.3.17 @ 1:02PM|#

How are the borders being "controlled" more compared to previous administrations? Has illegal immigration fallen to zero? I thought that would have been on the news. Seems to me the amount of control has gone unchanged, but the amount of propaganda about it from the White House has increased several-fold.

If we Americans want to let in thousands of immigrants, then so be it.

As I pointed out below, Americans broadly support maintaining or increasing levels of immigration. It's actually decreasing immigration that is the unpopular minority position. All you have is lies, just like Trump.

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 1:17PM|#

Illegal immigration is down 67% since Trump took office, according to the Washington Times. WT illegal immigration

Its anecdotal but I know two Mexicans who said their goodbyes to go back and apply. This way they don't get caught and be prohibited from applying for visas to the USA.

I would say your assumption, because it not based on fact, is incorrect that Americans want MORE immigration. Trump ran on controlling immigration and he won. At least 62M people were for Trump, so they knew it would probably happen. I voted for Gay Jay but I support stricter immigration controls.

Scarecrow Repair & Chippering|8.3.17 @ 11:52AM|#

Why wasn't 200M enough? Or 100M? or 4M?

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 12:01PM|#

Zeb|8.3.17 @ 11:56AM|#

You are asking the wrong questions.

Why is having more people a problem?

Is there a good, compelling reason to limit immigration more than it is?

We may have different answers to those questions. But the assumed default position should never be the one that is more restrictive if you give a crap about freedom. It's like asking why we need 23 kind of deodorant.

loveconstitution1789|8.3.17 @ 12:26PM|#

No. I AM asking the correct question. Why does AMERICA have to take in hundreds of thousands or millions of people?

There does not need to be a compelling reason. There is no current compelling reason to let immigrants live in the USA.

There used to be a reason which was because not many people lived in North America until the 1900s.

paranoid android|8.3.17 @ 12:29PM|#

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