President Obama on the keys to democracy’s survival, healing racial divide – ABC News
The world has and continues to change in so many monumental ways since former President Barack Obama's eight years in office.
Today, he says he stays awake at night thinking about how democracy can flourish in our constantly evolving world.
"We're now seeing state legislatures try to further suppress the vote or allow partisan politics to infect voting results and election results. That troubles me," Obama told "Good Morning America" host Michael Strahan in an exclusive interview.
Republicans in favor of measures requiring voters to identify themselves say these laws protect against people voting more than once, voting on behalf of someone else, or voting when they do not have the legal right to do so. Others who agree with Obama say voter fraud is not nearly common enough to warrant these laws, which disproportionately affect minorities including people of color.
Obama said he also spends a lot of time thinking about income inequality. "How can we increase minimum wages? How can we ensure that if you work hard in this country, you can make it?" he said of the questions that keep him up at night. "How does our democracy get refreshed and updated so that it continues to work effectively as we become a more diverse society?"
Michael Strahan interviews Former President Barack Obama in Washington, D.C. on Thursday, June 3, 2021.
Still, Obama is optimistic democracy can prosper.
Ahead of the Juneteenth holiday, which celebrates the emancipation of all enslaved people in the U.S, the former president said he trusts in a new generation of people fighting for equal rights. He met with some of these next-generation leaders, talented young athletes and students in one of Washington D.C.'s poorest neighborhoods, to discuss their ambitions. He also encouraged all Americans to reject hopelessness and work toward unity.
Even after the U.S. Capitol was attacked by insurrectionists who falsely believed then-President Donald Trump had won re-election, Obama said he believes "there's a way back."
"We've gotta do a better job of reducing the influence of those who try to inflame division and traffic in conspiracy theories for their own benefit," he said. "If we can't agree on basic facts then it's very hard for us to negotiate and compromise in a way that is constructive."
In May, the House of Representatives passed a bill to create an independent investigation into the January insurrection, but it was blocked in the Senate despite six Republican senators breaking ranks to vote in favor of the investigation. House Republicans argued the investigation would be used as political ammunition against them into the 2022 midterm elections.
"I do not believe the additional, extraneous commission that Democratic leaders want would uncover crucial new facts, or promote healing," Senate leader Mitch McConnell said. "Frankly, I do not believe it is even designed to do that."
Five people, including Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, died during or after the riot, and 140 police officers were injured. At least 465 of those who breached the Capitol have been arrested.
Meanwhile, many voters across the country still question the 2020 election results that spurred that attack -- despite repeated debunking of false voter fraud claims, several recounts confirming President Joe Biden's win, and failed lawsuits on behalf of the Trump campaign.
Michael Strahan interviews Former President Barack Obama in Washington, D.C. on Thursday, June 3, 2021.
"How we change that dynamic is gonna require, I think, a level of the public paying attention and insisting and demanding their elected officials and people in the media just, you know, saving our democratic habits and practices in a way that we have not seen," Obama said, adding that the rhetoric delegitimizing the process is a "threat to democracy."
Obama acknowledges how far political camps in our country have drifted apart from each other.
"If you are fighting for dignity and human rights and inclusion and opportunity, there's always gonna be resistance in a big, complicated society like ours. The question is are we able to maintain a process in which we listen to other voices?" he said. "If we lose, we say, 'As long as the process was fair, then I guess we gotta go out there and persuade more people to our side.'"
"There's a give and take," he added. "In our world of hot takes and Twitter, [there's an effort to] demonize the other side as much as possible. Sometimes, we think somehow the compromise and listening and working together is wrong."
Our country is only becoming more diverse, and our task is to make sure democracy works for everybody, Obama said.
"The American dream has been a reality for some and a myth for others," he said. "[There are] a lot of communities around the country where the kids who grew up here may formally be free, but structurally, because of poverty, because of schools that aren't working, because of substandard housing It requires so much more effort for them to live out that American dream. Our job is to make sure that it's not a myth, and right now, for too many, it still is."
His point is made clear in the very place where the former president met with ABC News: the Anacostia neighborhood of Washington, D.C., where the area's population is 94% Black and where 38% of its residents live at or below the poverty level.
"Something's happening in our society that prevents them from ascending to the highest office in the land," he said of underprivileged communities like Anacostia. "The same is true for African Americans; the same is true for Latinos; and [for] the first Americans, Native Americans. ... The odds are stacked in ways that prevent a lot of young people from realizing their potential, and we can do something about it."
Anacostia's Barry Farms neighborhood was once a tobacco plantation and later the first settlement for freed, formerly enslaved people in the city. In 1943, it became the Barry Farm Housing Projects and in the 1970s, the Barry Farm Community Summer Basketball League was formed.
In 1996, former resident Miles Rawls restarted the program when he returned from military service. Today, it is known as the George Goodman League and operates in partnership with the District of Columbia on the grounds of the Barry Farms Recreation Center, in an effort to keep history alive and people off the streets.
Former President Barack Obama with students from the Goodman League and area schools.
The league in the southeast corner of the city has attracted passionate ball players from around the region, and even the occasional NBA player, such as Kevin Durant, Gilbert Arenas and John Wall. This year, the league will celebrate its 25th anniversary.
"Back in those days -- the late '90s, early 2000s -- every gangster, hustler, troublemaker, you name it, was in here watching the games," Rawls said. He had one rule, he said: "No beefs in the gates This was a crime deterrence."
Seven years ago, Rawls, along with Marcus Chester, decided to expand the league, subsequently starting the Junior Goodman League. Today, it fields youth teams of third through 12th graders.
But due to the pandemic over the last year, the courts were closed.
"Throughout it all, I think they have learned to roll with the punches. Life comes at you with different things and you have to learn to deal with them," said Chester, who runs the Junior League.
Now, he says the program is back in action. Earlier this month, Obama surprised a group of athletes from the league as well as players from area schools.
Seventeen-year-old Rakisha Ballinger, who played pick-up with the Goodman League, is graduating from high school this year. She told Obama she will be attending Wagner College in New York to play basketball and study nursing. Electra Allembert, 17, said she doesn't yet know where she wants to go to college, but told the former president she wants to study law.
"I was like a lot of teenagers. I made mistakes," Obama told the students. "The reason I tell young people that is because I want them to have a sense that even if you make some mistakes, you still have so much time to reorient yourself and to go down a path that can lead to success."
Obama added that being on a basketball team like the Goodman League, in any sport, helps players "start feeling like it's all part of something bigger than just you. ... That's true in sports, [that] is true in life."
The former president said he takes hope from "the long view" and "recognizing that resilience, determination, the ability to deal with setbacks and disappointments carry us forward."
"No one has exhibited that more historically in this country than African Americans," he said. "The March on Washington happened during my lifetime. That's not ancient history. In big parts of the country, segregation was still operative when I was alive. ... What seems like stuff we now take for granted, that's just a generation old."
Now, the next generation has taken on the mantle of furthering equality. When asked what a young Obama might be doing at this time of social change, he said he hopes he'd "be out there with those young people ... trying to steer that energy into constructive, practical change."
"I could not be prouder of the young activists who responded to the George Floyd murder and so many of the other incidents that we've seen over the last several years," he said. "You had a level of white participation in those protests that you never saw, even at the height of the Civil Rights Movement back in the '60s. The key now is to translate that righteous anger and frustration and sadness into concrete policies."
Michael Strahan interviews Former President Barack Obama in Washington, D.C. on Thursday, June 3, 2021.
Sixteen-year-old Machi Chester, who has been playing with the Junior Goodman League since it launched seven years ago, says he was one of those people who went to the Floyd protests.
"Just to come together as a community was -- it was a good thing," Chester said.
Obama acknowledged that it can be "tempting" to consume the news sometimes and "feel despair."
"When we examine the history of race relations in this country what's happening with climate change, it is tempting sometimes to say, 'My goodness, humans are not going to get their act together,'" he said.
Hopelessness can be a "refuge," he said, from the harder work of pushing for change.
"The harder thing to do ... is to look at that stuff squarely, not deny it, not pretend there's no racism out there, not pretend that humans aren't cruel and selfish sometimes. But to say, 'Despite those truths and that fact, that's not immutable. That's not something that can't be changed,'" he said.
"We're not all gonna live in a perfect kumbaya society but we can make it better by working and by reaching out, and by assuming the best in each other. And if enough of us do that, we move that boulder up the hill," he said.
In his new book "A Promised Land," he writes about how often people believe change comes from one charismatic leader, but he says that's not entirely true.
"When we have a bunch of people working together, that's when change happens. That's one of the things I really admired about so many of the protests that happened this summer."
"When you look at our history, it happens from the bottom up. It happens because of [the] multiplicity of voices. Because none of us alone have all the answers," he said. "A thousand people who are organized, they can change the law in a city. A couple thousand folks who mobilize, they can have an impact at the state level. And a handful of people who are determined, they can change a neighborhood."
Obama said he misses doing that work while he was in office. However, he said, "I don't miss the pomp. I don't miss the attention."
Now, when he's not traveling, the two-term president spends his time between his homes in Washington, D.C., and Massachusetts. He said he feels joy from his daughters, Sasha, who just turned 20, and Malia, 22.
"When I see the two of them and the grace and kindness and sense of responsibility they have to each other and to the wider world ... of all the things I have accomplished in my life ... my partnership with Michelle, resulting in them, that makes everything worth it," he said.
Go here to see the original:
President Obama on the keys to democracy's survival, healing racial divide - ABC News
- The Obama Presidential Center is the most expensive US presidential library 15 things surprised me most - Business Insider - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Michelle Obama reveals unexpected similarity between Sasha Obama and Megan Thee Stallion - Yahoo - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Ken Burns on Waking the Dead, Cutting Trump-Era Echoes and Why His Obama Film Can Wait - variety.com - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- What we have lost: An emotion-filled visit to the Obama Presidential Center - Media Nation - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- The View from the Top of the Obama Center - Reformed Journal - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Top Obama ally reveals which far-left candidate needs to lose to help progressives win - Fox News - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Have you read these books? Barack Obama has. - 12News - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Michelle Obama offers rare insight into daughter Sasha's true personality with comparison to famous rapper - HELLO! Magazine - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Donald Trump Is 'the Most Powerful Socialist in the Country Today,' Former Obama Economic Advisor Says - Yahoo Finance - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Donald Trump Is 'the Most Powerful Socialist in the Country Today,' Former Obama Economic Advisor Says - Benzinga - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Michelle Obama convinced Megan Thee Stallion to try her notoriously intense workout, and she actually did it - HOLA - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Michelle Obama reveals unexpected similarity between Sasha Obama and Megan Thee Stallion - HOLA - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Michelle Obama and Megan Thee Stallion coordinated in all-white outfits for a candid "IMO" podcast conversation - Yahoo Creators - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Barack Obama Announces New Book-Themed PodcastHeres What we Know - Yahoo - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Larry David Reimagines Obama's Tan Suit Moment in LIFE, LARRY AND THE PURSUIT OF UNHAPPINESS - BroadwayWorld - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- What's to drink near the Obama Center? Specialty teas in a cup made by renowned artist Theaster Gates - Chicago Sun-Times - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Megan Thee Stallion Speaks On Upcoming Album 'ACT III' With Michelle Obama - iHeart - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Every decade it just got harder. The military-style workout Michelle Obama swears by at 62 - goodhousekeeping.com - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Barack Obama Jokes About Trumps Gold Oval Office Sign: I Cant Believe I Didnt Think of That - Benzinga - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- More Obama Presidential Center Museum tickets on sale Wednesday: Heres how to get yours - Yahoo - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Barack Obama is hosting a new podcast on Audible - Good e-Reader - August 14th, 2026 [August 14th, 2026]
- Abdul El-Sayed and Barack Obama spoke as Democrats seek to unify following heated Senate primary - CNN - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama launches podcast about books that shaped his worldview - The Guardian - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Obama Presidential Center Releasing More Tickets This Week - Block Club Chicago - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama to Host Podcast Digging Into Six Books That Helped Me Figure Out Who I Am and What I Believe - Variety - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Trump goes unmentioned but not ignored as Clinton, Bush and Obama step up as essayists on presidents - Los Angeles Times - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Obama to host literary podcast, A Great Book, on Audible - The Hill - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Obama launching 'A Great Book' podcast. Which favorites will he discuss and why? - USA Today - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Trump goes unmentioned but not ignored as Clinton, Bush and Obama step up as essayists on presidents - ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and... - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Books, movies, podcasts and the Obama Presidential Center: Barack Obamas second act keeps growing - TheGrio - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Abdul El-Sayed says he hopes to campaign with Obama after warm and inspiring call - NBC News - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama to Spotlight Books That Have Stayed with Me Throughout My Life in New Podcast - People.com - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- 'Life, Larry & the Pursuit of Unhappiness': See Obama Roast Trump Behind the Scenes - TV Insider - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- What is A Great Book? Barack Obama to unpack six titles that profoundly shaped his worldview on upcoming podcast - revolt.tv - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Abdul El-Sayed says he spoke with Obama after primary win, hopes hell campaign for him - NBC News - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Obama Roasts Trump in Behind-the-Scenes Footage from Larry David Sketch Show - IMDb - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama blames Larry David for his infamous tan suit scandal in new sketch: You sure about this? - Entertainment Weekly - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Trumps Pre-Midterm Approval Rating Compared to Biden, Obama and Bush - Newsweek - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- From Abdul El-Sayed to Barack Obama, Republicans have a history of weaponizing ethnic names - TheGrio - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- New round of Obama Presidential Center tickets to be released this week - nbcchicago.com - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- A GREAT BOOK WITH BARACK OBAMA Podcast to Launch from Audible, Higher Ground - BroadwayWorld - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama Gives Larry David Notes in New Behind-the-Scenes Clip - BroadwayWorld - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama to Host New Podcast About Books That 'Profoundly Shaped His Worldview & Our Society' for Audible - Just Jared - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Obama Presidential Center Releasing Next Round Of Museum Tickets Wednesday - Patch - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Clinton, Bush and Obama step up as essayists on presidents - Bedford Gazette - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama & Larry David Hilariously Recreate The Tan Suit "Scandal" Of 2014 - Hip-Hop Wired - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama to Spotlight Books That Have Stayed with Me Throughout My Life in New Podcast - AOL.com - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama Is Bringing His Favorite Books to Life in New Audible Podcast - Blex Media - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- Barack Obama and Larry David Revisit the Infamous Tan Suit Moment in Hilarious Spoof - AOL.com - August 11th, 2026 [August 11th, 2026]
- How Black-Owned BOWA Construction Played A Part In The Obama Presidential Center And Its Lasting Legacy - Yahoo - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- The Barack Obama blueprint: Healthy habits that help the former US President stay energetic and resilient at 65 - The Times of India - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Obama-appointed judge "reluctantly" hands win to Oath Keepers - newsweek.com - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Exclusive | Obama-honored domestic violence hero beat his girlfriend as secret terror campaign revealed: DA - New York Post - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- #TSRBirfdayz: #Roommates, join us as we wish the one and only #BarackObama a Happy 65th Birthday. #MichelleObama shared some touching words while... - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Happy 65th Birthday, Barack Obama! Celebrate with These Throwback Photos of the Former POTUS - People.com - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Prophet-Bullock: 'I want the next Barack Obama to come out of this district' - Audacy - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Magnus Ferrell on His Viral Hit Asleep Talking and Dad Will Ferrell Showing Michelle Obama His Music: I Finally Felt Ready to Have a Spotlight on It -... - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Thats us: From supporters to volunteers, how longtime Evanston family leaves its mark on Obama Presidential Center - Evanston RoundTable - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- President Barack Obama watches as first dog Bo runs with daughter Malia as his other daughter Sasha runs along as they show off their new Portuguese... - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Everything you need to know about visiting Chicago's Obama Presidential Center - OnMilwaukee - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Michelle Obama Shares Loved-Up Photo With Husband Barack Obama as He Turns 65 - instyle.com - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Trump Seeks to Relax Obama Rule on Arctic Oil and Gas Drilling - Bloomberg Government News - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- '65 NEVER LOOKED BETTER' Former US first lady Michelle Obama greeted her husband, former US President Barack Obama, on his birthday. - facebook.com - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Obama-appointed judge faces fresh impeachment threat after blocking Trump TPS order for Somalis - Fox News - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Forever First Family: Michelle Obama Celebrates Husband Baracks 65th Birthday With Heartfelt Post - Bossip - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Barack Obama's appearance has everyone talking in new birthday post as wife Michelle gushes '65 never looked better' - HELLO! Magazine - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Barack Obama opens 2026 summer playlist with Glen Hansard tribute after singers death at 56 - We Rave You - August 7th, 2026 [August 7th, 2026]
- Obama unveils summer playlist See the songs that made the cut - USA Today - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- This Is What Barack Obama Read and Listened to This Summer And People Have Thoughts - TODAY.com - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Harris cites JFK, Obama among most effective presidents, omitting Biden - The Hill - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Barack Obama Puts Glen Hansard, SZA, Drake, Beatles on His Songs of the Summer Playlist - The Hollywood Reporter - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Obama's summer reading list includes authors he's loved for years and new favorites - USA Today - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Obama Gives Oscar Winner Big Honor After Horrific Death - The Daily Beast - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Obama endorses Iowa Democrat Turek for the US Senate in a video of them playing basketball - AP News - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Colombian Singer Was Included by Barack Obama in his Annual List of Recommended Songs - ColombiaOne.com - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Pete Souza: The White House Photographer on Obama and Power - Monocle - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- This Indiana singer made Obama music list. What to know about the artist - IndyStar - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Barack Obama Just Dropped His Summer Playlist, but Im Not Convinced Hes Actually Listening to Some of These Songs - vice.com - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Barack Obama Released His Summer 2026 Reading List: See The Picks - essence.com - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]
- Watch Noah Kahan pretend to call Barack Obama and acknowledge summer playlist pick - KS95 94.5 - August 1st, 2026 [August 1st, 2026]