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Former head of the National Security Agency and CIA Michael Hayden said Jared Kushner's discussions about establishing a backchannel with the Kremlin were ignorant and naive, and said the notion he would do so because of distrust for the Obama administration suggests "we're in a really dark place as a society."

"Well, Michael, right now I'm going with naivete, and that's not particularly very comforting to me," Hayden said in an interview with CNN's Michael Smerconish on Saturday. "I mean what manner of ignorance, chaos, hubris, suspicion, contempt would you have to have to think that doing this with the Russian ambassador was a good or an appropriate idea?"

The Washington Post reported Friday that Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law and a senior adviser at the White House, and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak discussed setting up a secret and secure communications channel between the Trump transition team and the Kremlin.

Kushner allegedly suggested using U.S.-based Russian diplomatic facilities for the communications to protect their discussions from any monitoring by the U.S. government, Kislyak said.

Hayden, whose career with the NSA and CIA spans three presidential administrations, said the notion that Kushner wanted to avoid monitoring suggests that Trump didn't trust the previous administration.

Actions borne out of that distrust "suggests we're in a really dark place as a society," Hayden said.

"Here you are willing to risk the perception of secret communications with your alleged co-conspirator because you feared the existing government so much," he said.

When asked what how he believed Kislyak responded to Kushner's suggestion of setting up backchannels, Hayden said the request "goes so far out of the norm that he was probably shocked."

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Former NSA, CIA head: Kushner's attempts to set up backchannel with Russia ignorant, naive - Washington Examiner