OPINION EXCHANGE | If Trump and Pence both get very sick, it’s unclear who would be president – Minneapolis Star Tribune
It remains unlikely, but hardly unthinkable, that President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence could simultaneously come down with serious cases of COVID-19 especially after two prominent White House aides recently tested positive for the coronavirus. We have already seen one head of government, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, incapacitated by COVID-19 and sent to an intensive care unit.
Both men are in high-risk groups: Trump is 73 and overweight; Pence is 60. (Johnson, in contrast, is a comparatively youthful 55.) If they were ordinary people, the protocol would be for the two men to place themselves in self-quarantine for two weeks, yet they have not done so.
When Johnson was hospitalized, he deputized his foreign minister to act as prime minister in his absence. Should only the president become ill, then the vice president can take over, following the protocol laid out in the 25th Amendment. But if the vice president becomes incapacitated as well, then we could face a constitutional crisis. It would be triggered by the inadequacies of the Presidential Succession Act passed in 1947 (when there was no vice president, because Harry Truman had succeeded Franklin D. Roosevelt).
Article II of the Constitution grants Congress the right to provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President and the 1947 act is the current result. Under its rules, the speaker of the House and the president pro tempore of the Senate would be next in the line of succession, followed by the members of the Cabinet, beginning with the secretary of state.
Until 1947, succession had passed through the Cabinet. Congress added the speaker and president pro tem on the grounds that the president should desirably be an elected official, even if not part of the executive branch. This might make sense in theory, but it could be truly terrible in practice. Should both Pence and Trump be unable to serve, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D.-Calif., would become president under the act handing the White House to a different party without an election. Should she be unable or unwilling to serve, then the office would go to Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.
Any effort to transfer power from Trump and Pence to Pelosi would surely inspire legal and political challenges, adding to chaos at precisely the moment the nation desperately needed stability.
To be sure, COVID-19 in the White House could precipitate a crisis well before the Succession Act came into play. It is not difficult to imagine that Trump would deny and denounce as fake news any suggestion that he lacks the ability, in the words of Article I, Section 2, of the Constitution, to discharge the Powers and Duties of the presidency. The vice president and Cabinet can, in theory, overrule him and pronounce him unable to serve, invoking the 25th Amendment. But would they? Even if Pence and the Cabinet displayed independence, would Trump simply fire those who betrayed him? He couldnt fire the vice president, but the vice president cannot displace a president on his own; he needs the support of the majority of Cabinet officials and then Congress.
But even if the headstrong president bowed to reality, perhaps as he was about to go on a ventilator, the system would be stretched to the breaking point if Pence faced his own health crisis. If Pence, too, acknowledged his constitutional inability, then the Succession Act would apply and its flaws would become apparent.
The act, first of all, bespeaks a simplistic theory of democratic legitimacy that ignores the prominent role that political parties which have grown far more polarized since 1947 play in the American system. And it raises vexing legal and practical questions. Most lawyers believe that the speaker would have to resign from the House to serve as president, as a result of the Constitutions obscure incompatibility clause, which says that no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office. Perhaps, then, Pelosi would waive her right of succession (since, after all, her term would probably last only several weeks at most). So then the 86-year-old Grassley could take on the awesome role of president should he be willing to resign from the Senate.
There is also a serious argument, first laid out by Yale Law School professor Akhil Reed Amar and his brother, Vikram Amar, now dean of the University of Illinois College of Law, in a 1995 essay in the Stanford Law Review, that the Succession Act is unconstitutional. Article II specifically says that Congress in setting rules of succession must select an officer as a replacement for the president and vice president. Members of Congress, the argument goes, are not officers, because they are elected officials and not presidential appointees. (Another legal argument holds that the incompatibility clause does not apply if a member of Congress were to serve as president or vice president, because officers refers to people appointed by the president, not to the chief executive position itself. Under that interpretation, Pelosi could retain her legislative office, if the act were upheld as constitutional.)
To put it mildly, it is hard to imagine these questions being litigated in real time should Republicans try to prevent Pelosi from taking office, or should she try to serve as president and speaker simultaneously. This month, Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh evoked the possibility of chaos in a Supreme Court argument about unfaithful electors members of the electoral college who opt for candidates besides the ones they pledged to support. The problem of unfaithful electors is trivial compared with the true chaos possible under the Succession Act.
Constitutionality aside, the Succession Act makes little sense as policy: No one seriously believes that the worthies who serve as speaker of the House and president pro tem of the Senate do so because of a belief by the House or Senate that they have the skill set needed to serve as president. Indeed, Grassley occupies his office exclusively because he is the senior member of the majority.
Just as the United States turns out to have been woefully unprepared to confront the coronavirus, so are we unprepared to confront simultaneous presidential and vice-presidential disability. Returning to the pre-1947 rules, under which the secretary of state would follow the vice president in the line of succession, would make far more sense. The Constitution authorizes is it too much to suggest that it even places a duty on? Congress to address the possibility that the president and vice president could both become incapacitated. It should face up to its responsibility, before the grim scenario becomes reality.
Sanford V. Levinson is a professor of law and government at the University of Texas at Austin. He wrote this article for the Washington Post.
- Mike Pence Warns Trump Has Turned the GOP Into a Populist Party and Brings Receipts - Latin Times - May 13th, 2026 [May 13th, 2026]
- Mike Pence eyes the future as kingmaker, not candidate - MS NOW - May 3rd, 2026 [May 3rd, 2026]
- Mike Pence says Trump should back off the Pope, offensive Jesus pics - The Independent - April 25th, 2026 [April 25th, 2026]
- President Trumps Former VP Mike Pence Claims Hes Never Spoken to JD Vance: Hes Changed His Views - Globe Magazine - April 25th, 2026 [April 25th, 2026]
- College Station man arrested at Texas A&M after shouting profanities at former VP Mike Pence - KBTX News 3 - April 25th, 2026 [April 25th, 2026]
- Mike Pence Advises Trump to Back Down in Pope Feud After Blasting Offensive Jesus Meme - Yahoo News UK - April 25th, 2026 [April 25th, 2026]
- Mike Pence Breaks Silence With Tough Message To Trump Over Tariffs And Jesus Image - The Kenya Times - April 25th, 2026 [April 25th, 2026]
- Mike Pence warns JD Vance to avoid Obama-style Iran deal as nuclear talks set to begin in Pakistan - Fox News - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- Mike Pence urges Trump to 'finish the job' as pressure mounts on Iran - Fox News - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- Mike Pence warns JD Vance to avoid Obama-style Iran deal as nuclear talks set to begin in Pakistan - AOL.com - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- Mike Pence Warns JD Vance To Avoid Obama-Style Iran Deal As Nuclear Talks Set To Begin In Pakistan - wowo.com - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- From rivals to allies, Mike Pence and Jeff Flake advocate for conservative values - Deseret News - March 28th, 2026 [March 28th, 2026]
- Mike Pence criticizes Jan. 6, but not Trump himself, in ASU remarks - azcentral.com and The Arizona Republic - March 28th, 2026 [March 28th, 2026]
- Mike Pence To Speak At UChicagos Institute Of Politics In April - Block Club Chicago - March 26th, 2026 [March 26th, 2026]
- Staff revolts, secret meetings: Inside the tense fight between Mike Pence and the Heritage Foundation - CNN - March 26th, 2026 [March 26th, 2026]
- Former VP Mike Pence On War In Iran: Finish the job once and for all | NewsNation - PIX11 - March 17th, 2026 [March 17th, 2026]
- Former VP Mike Pence On War In Iran: Finish the job once and for all | NewsNation - wspa.com - March 17th, 2026 [March 17th, 2026]
- MIKE PENCE: Trump and our incredible military are ending 47 years of Iranian terror - Fox News - March 13th, 2026 [March 13th, 2026]
- Mike Pence: History will record Trump 'made the right call' - CNN - March 7th, 2026 [March 7th, 2026]
- Debating the Ex-IDF Spokesman About the War in Iran on Piers Morgan's Show, with Mike Pence - Glenn Greenwald | Substack - March 7th, 2026 [March 7th, 2026]
- V.P. Mike Pence Calls for Congress to Pass the SAVE Act - Advancing American Freedom - February 16th, 2026 [February 16th, 2026]
- Mike Pence to speak as the universitys annual Alice Pope Shade Lecture - suquill.com - February 9th, 2026 [February 9th, 2026]
- Mike Pence joins growing number of Republicans splitting with Trump on Greenland - The Independent - January 24th, 2026 [January 24th, 2026]
- Watch Hopeful SCOTUS Will Overturn Trump Tariffs: Mike Pence - Bloomberg - January 24th, 2026 [January 24th, 2026]
- Mike Pence Defends Trump's Greenland Ambitions, Saying National Security Demands ItAnd NATO Might Not Be Happy - Yahoo - January 24th, 2026 [January 24th, 2026]
- EXCLUSIVE: Mike Pence's Group Hires Former Heritage Legal Scholar Amid Exodus From Think Tank - freebeacon.com - January 14th, 2026 [January 14th, 2026]
- Mike Pence on military force in Greenland: "no" - CNN - January 14th, 2026 [January 14th, 2026]
- MIKE PENCE: Venezuela has a chance for freedom, thanks to Trump and our armed forces - Fox News - January 14th, 2026 [January 14th, 2026]
- Mike Pence Slams Trump White House's Jan. 6 Website as 'Very Offensive' and 'Deeply Wrong' | Video - TheWrap - January 14th, 2026 [January 14th, 2026]
- MIKE PENCE: Venezuela has a chance for freedom, thanks to Trump and our armed forces - FOX 8 TV - January 14th, 2026 [January 14th, 2026]
- A rift in MAGA has top Heritage Foundation officials leaving to join with Mike Pence - Indiana Public Media - December 27th, 2025 [December 27th, 2025]
- A rift in MAGA has top Heritage Foundation officials leaving to join with Mike Pence - NPR - December 22nd, 2025 [December 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Slams the Fallen Heritage Foundation Amid Mass Exodus to His Own Think Tank - Yahoo - December 22nd, 2025 [December 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Slams Trump's 'Doctrine Of Contradictions,' Warns New Security Strategy Will Please China, Russia But 'Discomfit' Allies - Benzinga - December 12th, 2025 [December 12th, 2025]
- Enter To Win Tickets To See Mike Pence On January 28 At The Sacramento Speaker Series! - Talk 650 KSTE - December 7th, 2025 [December 7th, 2025]
- Scenes from former Vice President Dick Cheneys funeral at Washington National Cathedral today. Former Presidents George W. Bush and Joe Biden were in... - November 20th, 2025 [November 20th, 2025]
- Mike Pence says America must continue to stand with Israel amid Union protest - varsity.co.uk - November 20th, 2025 [November 20th, 2025]
- Mike Pence, 48th Vice President of the United States, speaks at Chatham House - Chatham House - November 16th, 2025 [November 16th, 2025]
- Mike Pence's Handwritten Notes Reveal the Insult Donald Trump Used in Final Conversation Before Jan. 6 Riots - People.com - October 28th, 2025 [October 28th, 2025]
- Mike Pence's Handwritten Notes Reveal the Insult Donald Trump Used in Final Conversation Before Jan. 6 Riots - Yahoo - October 28th, 2025 [October 28th, 2025]
- Mike Pence's Handwritten Notes Reveal the Insult Donald Trump Used in Final Conversation Before Jan. 6 Riots - Yahoo News Canada - October 28th, 2025 [October 28th, 2025]
- Excerpts from Mike Pence notes on Jan. 6 conversations with Trump come out: Youll go down as a wimp - Diario AS - October 28th, 2025 [October 28th, 2025]
- Trump Slammed Mike Pence As A Wimp In Final Call Before Jan. 6 Insurrection - HuffPost - October 28th, 2025 [October 28th, 2025]
- Donald Trump's Insult For Mike Pence On Jan 6 Should Have JD Vance Watching His Back - thelist.com - October 28th, 2025 [October 28th, 2025]
- Trumps final words on Jan 6 to Mike Pence revealed - The Independent - October 26th, 2025 [October 26th, 2025]
- Trumps final words on Jan 6 to Mike Pence revealed - Yahoo News Canada - October 26th, 2025 [October 26th, 2025]
- Exclusive: Mike Pence, Conan OBrien, Helena Bonham Carter, George R. R. Martin to speak at the Union - The Oxford Student - October 7th, 2025 [October 7th, 2025]
- Mike Pence and John Bolton say Americas future lies with its citizens - Harvard Kennedy School - October 4th, 2025 [October 4th, 2025]
- Former Vice President Mike Pence voiced support for Harvard researchers caught up in the White Houses antisemitism investigations at a Harvard forum... - October 2nd, 2025 [October 2nd, 2025]
- What Trump's First VP Mike Pence Has Been Up To Since Being Iced Out Of His Inner Circle - thelist.com - September 28th, 2025 [September 28th, 2025]
- Trump judicial pick who faced conservative backlash gets boost from Mike Pence group - Washington Examiner - September 25th, 2025 [September 25th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says Trump Is 'Right' When He Says Ukraine Can Fight And Win Back Territory From Russia - Benzinga - September 25th, 2025 [September 25th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence Heads To Academia With Faculty Role At George Mason University - Benzinga - September 21st, 2025 [September 21st, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence to teach politics at George Mason University in the Spring - WJLA - September 21st, 2025 [September 21st, 2025]
- Mike Pence Arrives At Capitol Before Trump Inauguration Made A Post (CIs2MbvVKU) - folha do es - September 21st, 2025 [September 21st, 2025]
- Today, Vice President Mike Pence surprised guests at the Bush Center and sat down for a special taping of The Strategerist podcast before a live... - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence to become George Mason University professor - WUSA9 - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence: China is the greatest economic and strategic threat facing the U.S. - CNBC - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence joins George Mason University faculty - DC News Now - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence to teach politics at George Mason University in the Spring - WSET - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence announces he will be teaching at George Mason University in Virginia - weareiowa.com - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Video Mike Pence to teach politics at George Mason University in 2026 - ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence joins George Mason University faculty - The Business Journals - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence: "We gotta be careful about putting America on trial whenever we see evil overtake the heart of any individual. In this case, absent... - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Joins George Mason University as Distinguished Professor - National Review - September 17th, 2025 [September 17th, 2025]
- FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Five years on, the Abraham Accords still point the way to peace - Fox News - September 15th, 2025 [September 15th, 2025]
- Mike Pence to speak at UNCW this fall - Port City Daily - August 29th, 2025 [August 29th, 2025]
- Vice President Mike Pence to Keynote UNCWs Dare to Learn Lecture - University of North Carolina Wilmington - August 27th, 2025 [August 27th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Blames Trump Tariffs As John Deere Cuts 238 Jobs In Iowa: 'Time To Get Back To Free Trade With Free Nations' - Benzinga - August 26th, 2025 [August 26th, 2025]
- Mike Pence on Trumps handling of Putin, tariffs - NewsNation - August 22nd, 2025 [August 22nd, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence tells The Hill on NewsNation Putin doesnt want peace - The Hill - August 22nd, 2025 [August 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Calls For 'Free Trade With Free Nations' And Says Tariffs Ultimately Hurt U.S. Businesses And Shoppers - Yahoo Finance - August 14th, 2025 [August 14th, 2025]
- Mike Pence-Backed Group Calls for End to Gambling Loss Tax Deductions - newsnet5.com - August 12th, 2025 [August 12th, 2025]
- US companies and consumers paying the cost of Trumps tariffs - Mike Pence - sentinelassam.com - August 12th, 2025 [August 12th, 2025]
- Eric Metaxas Guest John Zmirak: Mike Pence, Lindsey Graham, John McCain Were Part of Obama Coup Claimed by Gabbard - People For the American Way - August 9th, 2025 [August 9th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says 'Time Has Come' to Share Epstein Files, Adding 'Anyone' Associated with the 'Despicable Man' Deserves Scrutiny - AOL.com - July 22nd, 2025 [July 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Joins Calls To Release Epstein Files: The Time Has Come - Yahoo Home - July 20th, 2025 [July 20th, 2025]
- Extended Interview: Mike Pence on Trump tariffs, Jeffrey Epstein and more - CBS News - July 20th, 2025 [July 20th, 2025]
- Mike Pence calls for the release of the Epstein files - AOL.com - July 20th, 2025 [July 20th, 2025]
- Mike Pence urges Trump to 'release all the files' on Jeffrey Epstein - USA Today - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]