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One of our recurring questions here is the nature of crazy: Do people go crazy? Or were they always crazy, but just passing as normal?
Over at the UnPopulist, Tom Palmer catches up with alt-right conservative / brave intellectual dark web truth teller Jordan Peterson, who has made the journey from side-show curiosity to Putin apologist. Heres Palmer:
It turns out that there are people who believe that Putin was forced to invade Ukraine because Russia is a part of the West and therefore has a stake in its culture war whose Ground Zero is somehow Ukraine. That is the view that University of Toronto psychology professor and popular lecturer Jordan Peterson expressed in a recent 51-minute video monologue. In fact, he believes that Russias invasion has something to do with the controversies about gender and gender identity in the West.
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Peterson rose to fame because of his unsparing slams on wokeness and its crusade over gender identity, pronouns and so on. But in this monologue, he focuses his ire on the confirmation hearings of Supreme Court Justice Kentanji Brown Jackson. Peterson was particularly miffed that Brown dodged Tennessee Republican Senator Marsha Blackburns gotcha questionas Peterson himself puts itin which Brown was asked to provide a definition for the word woman. Jackson declined, noting that she was not a biologist. As far as Peterson is concerned, Jacksons refusal to answer Sen. Blackburns simple question is proof of a deranged, degenerate and insane West. . . .
Russia is a part of the West, he asserts, and Russians believe that they have the highest moral duty to oppose the degenerate ideas, philosophy, theology of the West. More strikingly, that belief, Peterson insists, is not wrong: And theres something about that, that is not wrong. And that is why the incursion of Russia into Ukraine is, more truly, a civil war in the West.
Now its all making sense. The nationalist-conservatives (a) love Putin and (b) are horny for civil war. Peterson has found a way to combine the two: The invasion of Ukraine is the new civil war. And the Russians are protecting their heritage and sovereignty?
I mean, in a way that all kind of scans, doesnt it? Especially when you understand that in this view, the Russians the Confederatesand thats why Peterson and some other conservatives are rooting for them.
Good times.
In Petersons case, I think the answer to our initial question has always been pretty obvious: The guy was crazy as a bag of cats from the get-go. Heres Palmer on the Peterson origin story:
Peterson has gained a huge internet following by sometimes sayingin very profound sounding tonesthings that seem pretty sensible, such as, If you want to change the world, you start with yourself and work outward because you build your competence that way. I dont know how you can go out and protest the structure of the entire economic system if you cant keep your room organized. That seems to me like reasonable advice to a young person. His books and his talks offer a lot more advice like that, such as pet a cat when you encounter one on the street. Im fond of cats so thats fine with mebut he lost me in his 12 Rules for Life book at step forward to take your place in the dominance hierarchy.
LPT: If you see a person in the public square who says some things that line up with your priors, but also seems maybe kind of crazy . . . theyre crazy. Or, as Neil McCauley (maybe) said, If theres any doubt, there is no doubt.
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John Ganz has some thoughts about the origins of what he calls the American Vlkisch.
The chapter of my book Im currently writing deals with the Ruby Ridge incident, where Randy Weaver, a survivalist, and his family, faced off against the federal government in a siege of his Idaho cabin. As you may remember, the result was tragedy: the Weaver clan killed a Federal marshal, and the feds killed Weavers wife and son. The stand off at Ruby Ridge was perhaps the key moment in the creation of the modern militia movement. But what interests me at the moment is what the Weavers believed and how they came to believe it. The Weavers were followers of a Christian Identity, which stipulates that White Anglo-Saxons are the true Israelites of the Bible and that those known as Jews today were actually Satans spawn. They thought the U.S. government was dominated by a Satanic conspiracy and were prepared to kill and die for their beliefs.
Ganz asks how the Weavers, a normal, Midwestern couple, got radicalized. His answer is that their story,
involves their getting deeper and deeper into apocalyptic and conspiratorial thought, but very roughly speaking Christian Identity, which was actually developed by American Nazis in the 1930s, easily plugged into the religious traditions the Weavers grew up in. It contained millennialism, the idea of an elect, Biblical prophecy, and it organized people into local congregations: it was not a far cry from evangelical, Reformed, and fundamentalist Protestantism they grew up with, so it did not appear all that alien. But it twisted one tenet of Calvinism: instead of believers thinking of themselves as metaphorical Israelites, a community of believers in covenant with God, it taught that they were the literal bloodline descendants of the tribes, which also were actually the Aryans of Europe, not the Semites of the Middle East. In short, it replaced the concept of community with that of race.
Brief aside: If any of that sounds familiar to you, heres a bit of background about Pennsylvanias Republican gubernatorial candidate, Doug Mastriano, from a piece in The Bulwark a while back:
Mastriano also has an increasingly familiar religious profile. He has described the Gulf War, in which he served in 1991, as a holy wara belief reflected in his bizarre 2002 graduate thesis, Nebuchadnezzars Sphinx. He has attended events of the Charismatic Christian dominionist movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. He shares anti-Muslim memes, hangs out with militia members to guard Confederate statues at Gettysburg, and constantly hits all the main themes of Christian nationalist discourse in his speeches and other activities. In one particularly tasteless moment, he announced his gubernatorial candidacy while wearing a tallit and blowing a shofarsymbols that Christian nationalists have appropriated from the Jewish tradition and use to declare apocalyptic spiritual war.
You dont have to be the worlds greatest detective to see whats going on here. Anyway . . .
Back to Ganz:
Many of the doctrines cooked up by the extreme right do similar variations on fundamental American myths. Theres a consistent effort to appropriate Americana. For instance, Posse Comitatus, which I wrote about recently, is related to Christian Identity teaching and plays on Old West themes of sheriffs and vigilantes; The Militia Movement tries to appropriate the language of the Constitution . . .
It occurred to me one thing that might help us to understand this phenomenon was George L. Mosses work, namely his book The Crisis of German Ideology: The Intellectual Origins of the Third Reich. Mosses argument is basically that Nazism didnt come out of nowhere, but that there was a fertile cultural context that dated back to the 19th century: the vlkisch movement. Vlkisch is a bit difficult to translate, on the one hand it can be as anodyne as popular and populist, but in this context it is redolent of blood-and-soil nationalism and mysticism. Vlkisch ideology had its roots in a romantic revolt against modernity: its adherents took a deep interest in the natural, going back to the land, in old Germanic folklore, mythology, and traditions. It often had a racial and anti-semitic component, opposing the earthy, practical German people to the abstract, alien Jew. The Nazis both sprang out of this subculture and took advantage of its penetration into the national imagination. In Mosses telling, Nazism was an ingenious combination of vlkisch anti-modernism and modern mass political techniques. . . .
One way to conceive of this far right Americana as a kind of American vlkism: an ideological imaginary that is a reaction to the modern situation but presents itself as rooted in the soil, in the countrys oldest traditions and lore.
Look, its not a straight line from the Vlkisch movement to traditionalists like Jordan Peterson and the Nat Cons. But you can see from one point to the other.
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- Transcript: The Psychology of Human Aggression - J. D. Haltigan on The Dr. Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - The Singju Post - October 15th, 2025 [October 15th, 2025]
- I think Jordan Peterson has hired a Congolese Tailor Jordan B. Peterson is a Canadian psychologist, author, and media commentator known for his views... - October 13th, 2025 [October 13th, 2025]
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- Jordan Peterson taking time off everything after being exposed to a particularly moldy environment - inkl - August 18th, 2025 [August 18th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson taking time off to fight new health setback, according to his daughter - Yahoo News Canada - August 18th, 2025 [August 18th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson taking time off everything after being exposed to a particularly moldy environment - Yahoo News Canada - August 18th, 2025 [August 18th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson taking time off to fight new health setback, according to his daughter - MSN - August 18th, 2025 [August 18th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson Taking Some Time Off of Everything Following CIRS Diagnosis - ChurchLeaders - August 18th, 2025 [August 18th, 2025]
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- Sessions | Riley Gaines [DW+ Exclusive] - The Daily Wire - June 29th, 2025 [June 29th, 2025]
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- This Week in Canada: The Reeducation of Jordan Peterson - The Free Press - June 22nd, 2025 [June 22nd, 2025]
- Salonen: Is Jordan Peterson converting, waffling or still a skeptic? - InForum - June 20th, 2025 [June 20th, 2025]
- How Social Media Is Wrecking Kids' Lives and Stealing Their Childhood | Jonathan Haidt - The Daily Wire - June 20th, 2025 [June 20th, 2025]
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- What One Billionaire Knows About Outlasting a Dollar Collapse | Michael Saylor [Ad Version] - The Daily Wire - June 10th, 2025 [June 10th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson is sinking into crisis by denying his faith - Catholic Herald - June 10th, 2025 [June 10th, 2025]
- Is Jordan Peterson Just Making It Up as He Goes? - The Walrus - June 10th, 2025 [June 10th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson says Canadians choosing path of 'severe pain' with Mark Carney - Yahoo News Canada - April 25th, 2025 [April 25th, 2025]
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- Jordan Peterson is a sad and angry man: an interview with Rowan Williams - The Spectator - April 25th, 2025 [April 25th, 2025]
- Jordan Peterson said 1934 British classic is one of best books he's ever read - Daily Express - April 25th, 2025 [April 25th, 2025]
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- Mark Carney is another Justin Trudeau: a woke, broke, Net Zero fanatic - The Telegraph - April 3rd, 2025 [April 3rd, 2025]
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- Sessions | John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall [DW+ Exclusive] - The Daily Wire - March 26th, 2025 [March 26th, 2025]
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- Jordan Peterson issues chilling free speech warning: 'UK has gone further than anywhere in the west' - GB News - January 22nd, 2025 [January 22nd, 2025]
- I knew one day Id have to watch powerful men burn the world down I just didnt expect them to be such losers - The Guardian - January 22nd, 2025 [January 22nd, 2025]
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- 5 things we learned from Jordan Petersons two-hour interview with Pierre Poilievre - Toronto Star - January 6th, 2025 [January 6th, 2025]
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- Jordan Peterson moves to the US to escape 'totalitarian hell hole' - The Christian Post - December 22nd, 2024 [December 22nd, 2024]
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- Jordan Peterson ditches Canada for the U.S.: The government is incompetent beyond belief - Toronto Sun - December 22nd, 2024 [December 22nd, 2024]