Crock the Vote – snopes.com
Claim: An academic study cited by conservative news organizations and the Trump administration proved that Hillary Clinton received more than 800,000 non-citizen votes in the 2016 presidential election.
Origin:A recurring refrainissuing from President Trump's Twitter account ever since he won the 2016 election by 74 electoral votes in November holds that he was robbedof a victory in the popular vote count (which Hillary Clinton won by 2,865,075 votes) duetoat least 3 million illegal ballots cast by non-citizens.
The documentation offered to supportthis assertionhas ranged fromvague to nonexistent. When asked to defendit in a 24 January 2017 press conference, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer stated that Trump's belief that there wasmassive voter fraud in 2016was "based on studies he's seen." Pressed to cite such a study, Spicer said, "There's one that came out of Pew in 2008 that showed 14 percent of people who voted were non-citizens."
Albeitmistaken about both itsorigins (it was writtenby researchers at Old Dominion University usingdata collectedbythe Cooperative Congressional Election Study, not Pew) and findings(it did not remotely show that 14 percent of the electorateamountingto 18 million voters were non-citizens), Spicer was, at least, alluding to an actual study.
In fact, the same studywas cited for the same purposes two days after thepress conferencein a Washington Timesarticlestating that Hillary Clinton benefited to the tune of834,381 non-citizen votes in the 2016 election:
Hillary Clinton garnered more than 800,000 votes from non-citizens on Nov. 8, an approximation far short of President Trumps estimate of up to 5 million illegal voters but supportive of his charges of fraud.
Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on non-citizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trumps assertion.
Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult non-citizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.
The study in questionwas published in the December 2014 issue of the journalElectoral Studies,titled: "Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?" Its authors,Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, and David C. Earnest of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, sought to contribute hard data to the ongoing, largely partisan debateover how much voter fraud actually occurs in the United States. Richman and Earnest summarizedtheir research in a 24 October 2014 article in the Washington Post:
Our data comes from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES). Its large number of observations (32,800 in 2008 and 55,400 in 2010) provide sufficient samples of the non-immigrant sub-population, with 339 non-citizen respondents in 2008 and 489 in 2010. For the 2008 CCES, we also attempted to match respondents to voter files so that we could verify whether they actually voted.
How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.
Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections.
To be clear,when Sean Spicer citedthis study to support Trump's assertionthat millions voted illegally in the 2016 election, hewas referring toa set of extrapolations madein 2014 based on data collected by another research group in 2008 and 2010. Further, the validity of those extrapolations has been repeatedlychallenged by the original pollsters(more about thatlater). Just as importantly, the lead author of the study advancingthose extrapolations, Jesse Richman, has saidthat even if their conclusionswere 100 percent valid which, again, is in question they don'tconfirm Trump's claim that"millions" voted illegally:
Donald Trump recently suggested that his deficit in the popular vote to Clinton might be due entirely to illegal votes cast, for instance by non-citizens. Is this claim plausible? The claim Trump is making is not supported by our data.
Here I run some extrapolations based upon the estimates for other elections from my coauthored 2014 paper on non-citizen voting. You can access that paper on the journal website hereand Judicial Watch has also posted a PDF. The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted, and that of the non-citizens who voted, 81.8percent voted for Clinton and 17.5percent voted for Trump. These were numbers from our study for the 2008 campaign. Obviously to the extent that critics of my study are correct the first number (percentage of non-citizens who voted) may be too high, and the second number (percentage who voted for Clinton) may be too low.
The count of the popular vote is still in flux as many states have yet to certify official final tallies. Here I used this unofficial tally linked by Real Clear Politics. As of this writing Trump is 2,235,663 votes behind Clinton in the popular vote.
If the assumptions stated above concerning non-citizen turnout are correct, could non-citizen turnout account for Clintons popular vote margin? There is no way it could have. 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million non-citizen adults in the US would addonly 834,318votes to Clintons popular vote margin. This is little more than a thirdof the total margin.
Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clintons margin. Yes. Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
Returning to theWashington Times piece defending Trump's assertion about illegal voters (see top of page), the article creates the impression, perhaps intentionally, that Richman conducted freshresearch using new data from the 2016 election. However, in a 27 January 2017 open letter to theTimes, Richman objected that both his research and his own comments about the research weremisrepresented:
I do not support the Washington Times piece
Dear Washington Times,
As a primary author cited in this piece, I need to say that I think the Washington Times article is deceptive. It makes it sound like I have done a study concerning the 2016 election. I have not. What extrapolation I did to the 2016 election was purely and explicitly and exclusively for the purpose of pointing out that my 2014 study of the 2008 election did not provide evidence of voter fraud at the level some Trump administration people were claiming it did. I do not think that one should rely upon that extrapolation for any other purpose. And I do not stand behind that extrapolation if used for ANY other purpose.
Best Regards,
Jesse Richman
Finally, we must address the question of whetherthe extrapolations Richman et al made in their 2014 study were valid in the first place. Let usturn to one of the pollsterswho compiled the original Cooperative Congressional ElectionStudy voter data in 2008 and 2010, Brian Schaffner, who wrote:
As a member of the team that produces the datasets upon which that study was based and as the co-author of an article published in the same journal that provides a clear take down of the study in question, I can say unequivocally that this research is not only wrong, it is irresponsible social science and should never have been published in the first place. There is no evidence that non-citizens have voted in recent U.S. elections.
Although based on precisely the same data as Richman's, Schaffner's conclusion could not be more starkly different. To simplify his argument (which we encourage allto read in full), the Richman study failed to account for measurement error specifically, it failed to account for the frequency with which survey respondents may have incorrectlyidentified themselves as "non-citizens":
Such errors are infrequent, but they happen in any survey. In this case, they were crucial, because Richman and his colleagues saw the very small number of people who answered that they were immigrant non-citizens, and extrapolated that (inaccurate) number to the U.S. population as a whole.
How do we know that some people give an inaccurate response to this question? Well, we actually took 19,000 respondents from one of the surveys that Richman used (the 2010 study) and we interviewed them again in 2012. A total of 121 of the 19,000 respondents (.64 percent) identified themselves as immigrant non-citizens when they first answered the survey in 2010. However, when asked the question again in 2012, 36 of the 121 selected a different response, indicating that they were citizens. Even more telling was this: 20 respondents identified themselves as citizens in 2010 but then in 2012 changed their answers to indicate that they were non-citizens. It is highly unrealistic to go from being a citizen in 2010 to a non-citizen in 2012, which provides even stronger evidence that some people were providing incorrect responses to this question for idiosyncratic reasons.
Correcting for thoseerrors, saysSchaffner, the likely number of non-citizen voters in the 2016 election turns out to benot 5 million, nor 3 million, nor even 800,000, but zero.
Ansolabehere, Stephen, Luks, Samantha and Schaffner, Brian F. "The Perils of Cherry Picking Low Frequency Events in Large Sample Surveys." CCES. 5 November 2014.
Chattha, Gulshan A., Earnest, David C. and Richman, Jesse T. "Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?" Electoral Studies. December 2014.
Richman, Jesse. "I Do Not Support the Washington Times Piece." 27 January 2017.
Richman, Jesse. "Is It Plausible that Non-Citzen Votes Account for the Entire Margin of Trump's Popular Vote Loss to Clinton?" 28 November 2016.
Richman, Jesse and Earnest, David. "Could Non-Citizens Decide the November Election?" The Washington Post. 24 October 2014.
Scarborough, Rowan. "Trump Argument Bolstered: Clinton Could Have Received 800,000 Votes from Noncitizens." The Washington Times. 26 January 2017.
Schaffner, Brian. "Trump's Claims About Illegal Votes Are Nonsense. I Debunked the Study He Cites as 'Evidence.'" Politico.com. 29 November 2016.
View original post here:
Crock the Vote - snopes.com
- Hillary Clinton no longer cares what you think about her - The Boston Globe - June 28th, 2026 [June 28th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton claims Netanyahu 'played games' with US over Iran strikes - Roya News - June 28th, 2026 [June 28th, 2026]
- Katie Couric Says CBS Gaslit Her Over Lady Gaga, Hillary Clinton Interviews: 'It Was a Bald-Faced Lie' | Video - TheWrap - June 28th, 2026 [June 28th, 2026]
- Katie Couric Says 60 Minutes Once Reassigned Her Interviews with Lady Gaga and Hillary Clinton: 'It Made Me Crazy' - People.com - June 28th, 2026 [June 28th, 2026]
- Philly stars in Netflix's 'The American Experiment' alongside Hillary Clinton and Mike Pence - PhillyVoice - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Looked Like 'Darth Vader' In Hat-And-Sunglasses Combo - Yahoo - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Blasts 2016 Election Loss to Trump in Netflix Docuseries: The Electoral College Is an Abomination - Variety - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- The American Experiment Interviews Revealed: What Hillary Clinton and Mike Pence Say in Netflix Documentary - IMDb - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Breaks Silence on Abomination of Electoral College in New Netflix Series - TV Insider - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- The American Experiment Review: Netflixs Tom Hanks-Produced Doc Featuring Hillary Clinton and Mike Pence Inspires and Irritates - IMDb - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Blasts 2016 Election Loss to Trump in Netflix Docuseries: The Electoral College Is an Abomination - IMDb - June 24th, 2026 [June 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton is learning to live with Trump - UnHerd - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton howls with laughter as Michelle Obama trolls Trump in heartfelt speech to husband Barack - Yahoo - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton howls with laughter as Michelle Obama trolls Trump during heartfelt speech to husband Barack - The Independent - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- The New York Times. . During an interview with The New Yorkers editor, David Remnick, Hillary Clinton called Joe Bidens re-election bid a terrible... - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton on How Donald Trump Lost the Iran War - WNYC - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Jean Houston, Midwife of Souls Who Advised Hillary Clinton, Dies at 89 - The New York Times - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton avoids Graham Platner endorsement while downplaying scandals as 'bumps on the road' - New York Post - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- A Fox News host is facing pushback for his bizarre on-air dismissal of Hillary Clinton's legacy - intomore.com - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton dodges endorsing Graham Platner, calls his scandals 'bumps on the road' - Fox News - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Says Any Democrat Would Have Beaten President Trump if Joe Biden Had Stepped Aside - Yahoo - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Applause Erupt As Michelle Obama MOCKS TRUMP On Nobel Peace Prize; Hillary Clinton LAUGHS OUT LOUD - The Times of India - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton howls with laughter as Michelle Obama trolls Trump during heartfelt speech to husband Barack - AOL.com - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Michelle Obama Appears To Troll Trump, And Hillary Clinton Cant Stop Laughing - Yahoo News UK - June 22nd, 2026 [June 22nd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton: Biden shouldnt've run, says it was "a terrible mistake for the country - CBS News - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton breaks with Democratic critics by backing Trumps Gaza plan as the 'only game in town' - Fox News - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton blasted former President Joe Biden for pursuing a second term, describing the campaign as a terrible mistake. In a recent interview... - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton: Biden shouldnt've run, says it was "a terrible mistake for the country - Yahoo - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton admits for first time: I was wrong to support Biden's 2024 candidacy - Ynetnews - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton's White House UFC jab backfires after critics point out what her husband did in 'our house' - Fox News - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- The claws have come out: Hillary Clinton turns on Joe Biden in bombshell interview - Sky News Australia - June 17th, 2026 [June 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Compares Trump's 'I Love The Inflation' Remark To Marie Antoinette's 'Let Them Eat Cake' - Yahoo - June 16th, 2026 [June 16th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton's White House UFC jab backfires after critics point out what her husband did in 'our house' - Yahoo - June 16th, 2026 [June 16th, 2026]
- Omar Artan visa row: Hillary Clinton, Tedros slam US move to bar Somali referee from FIFA World Cup - The Indian Express - June 12th, 2026 [June 12th, 2026]
- Pete Buttigieg and Hillary Clinton speak at 1st Rainbow PUSH convention since Rev. Jesse Jackson's death - CBS News - June 12th, 2026 [June 12th, 2026]
- It's terribly backward: Hillary Clinton after Somalian referee denied entry to US | 'FIFA not part of host's immigration processes' | Inshorts -... - June 10th, 2026 [June 10th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Says Trump's $250 Bill Will Only Be Enough To Buy A 'Gallon Of Gas And A Carton Of Eggs' By The Time His Term Ends - Yahoo Finance - June 5th, 2026 [June 5th, 2026]
- Southwest Airlines Flight WN3510 from Phoenix Arizona to Nashville Tennessee Diverts and Makes Emergency Landing at Bill and Hillary Clinton National... - June 5th, 2026 [June 5th, 2026]
- Stephen Colbert shares the Hillary Clinton joke that never made it to air as he kicks off final week of shows - The Independent - May 25th, 2026 [May 25th, 2026]
- The Hillary Clinton graphic that never made it to Late Show revealed as Stephen Colbert kicks off final week - New York Post - May 25th, 2026 [May 25th, 2026]
- The Hillary Clinton graphic that never made it to Late Show revealed as Stephen Colbert kicks off final week - AOL.com - May 25th, 2026 [May 25th, 2026]
- 'Anti-Common-Sense': Bill Maher Lashes out at Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton for Dodging His Show - Morning Honey - May 25th, 2026 [May 25th, 2026]
- Stephen Colbert shares Hillary Clinton joke that never made it to air - MSN - May 25th, 2026 [May 25th, 2026]
- Zach Galifianakis Threatened to Pull Hillary Clinton's 'Between Two Ferns' Spot Over Emails - TheWrap - May 11th, 2026 [May 11th, 2026]
- Zach Galifianakis reveals he nearly scrapped 2016 Hillary Clinton interview after campaign's no emails demand - Fox News - May 11th, 2026 [May 11th, 2026]
- James Comey on Trump, Hillary Clinton and the FBI: Meet the Press archive - MSN - May 3rd, 2026 [May 3rd, 2026]
- James Comey on Trump, Hillary Clinton and the FBI: Meet the Press Archive - NBC News - May 1st, 2026 [May 1st, 2026]
- Huma Abedin and Hillary Clinton unite for a cause, Julia Roberts has a Broadway date night and more sightings - Page Six - May 1st, 2026 [May 1st, 2026]
- In this May 1, 2011 file photo released by the White House and digitally altered by the source to diffuse the paper in front of Secretary of State... - May 1st, 2026 [May 1st, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton warns US in 'weak' position with Iran negotiations - Fox News - April 19th, 2026 [April 19th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Slams Donald Trump As 'Unhinged' After He Posted 'Threatening' Attacks On Truth Social - Yahoo - April 19th, 2026 [April 19th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton: Orbns loss in Hungary is wake-up call for Americans ahead of midterms - MS NOW - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton warns US in 'very weak position' with Iran, 'lost the leverage' in negotiations - AOL.com - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Sounds Alarm at Unhinged Trumps Mental State - The Daily Beast - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Says President Trump Needs to be Held Accountable For Unhinged Rants on Social Media - Yahoo - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- A wake up call for Americans: Hillary Clinton reacts to outcome in Hungarys election - MS NOW - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton warns US in 'very weak position' with Iran, 'lost the leverage' in negotiations - Fox News - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- 'Morning Joe': Hillary Clinton Calls on Congress to Rein In Trump Before He Causes 'Irreparable Damage' | Video - TheWrap - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Unhinged and disgraceful: Hillary Clinton lambasts Trumps vulgar social posts - MSN - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Ed Davey: Hillary Clinton Told Me To Stand Up To Bullies Like Reform UK - Politics Home - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Says President Trump Needs to be Held Accountable For Unhinged Rants - Yahoo - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton warns US in 'weak' position with Iran negotiations - Yahoo - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Says President Trump Needs to be Held Accountable For Unhinged Rants on Social Media - Globe Magazine - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton Says Trumps Behavior Is Unhinged, Calls Him a Disgrace in Scathing Attack - Inquisitr News - April 17th, 2026 [April 17th, 2026]
- The Internet Is Dragging This MAGA Influencer For His...Interesting Posts About Joe Biden And Hillary Clinton - Yahoo - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- Old Hillary Clinton Tweet Reminds Everyone Of Trump's Greatest Weakness - Yahoo News UK - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- Old Hillary Clinton Tweet Reminds Everyone Of Trump's Greatest Weakness - HuffPost - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- 'Iran with nuclear is much more dangerous': Trump carries out what Hillary Clinton pledged in 2015 - Business Today - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- The Internet Is Dragging This MAGA Influencer For His...Interesting Posts About Joe Biden And Hillary Clinton - AOL.com - April 10th, 2026 [April 10th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton or Sabrina Carpenter? Reddit fans cant help but notice the striking resemblance between the two women in Hillary's wedding photos -... - April 5th, 2026 [April 5th, 2026]
- Scottish actor Brian Cox says 'They don't like women in America': 'Look what happened to Hillary Clinton' - Firstpost - April 5th, 2026 [April 5th, 2026]
- Battenfeld: Democrats face deplorable dilemma whether to turn to Hillary Clinton - Boston Herald - April 3rd, 2026 [April 3rd, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton 2028? Its not as crazy as you think - Washington Examiner - March 30th, 2026 [March 30th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton to headline Democratic dinner in New Hampshire - Washington Times - March 30th, 2026 [March 30th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton returning to New Hampshire but not for a 2028 comeback - AOL.com - March 30th, 2026 [March 30th, 2026]
- EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton Stabs Bill in the Back How Former First Lady Showed No Mercy for Hubby in Epstein Deposition - AOL.com - March 26th, 2026 [March 26th, 2026]
- Hey, Look! Hillary Clinton Was in Humboldt and Del Norte Again Over the Weekend - Lost Coast Outpost - March 24th, 2026 [March 24th, 2026]
- 'I am done: Hillary Clinton bangs table, yells, walks out as GOP grills her over Epstein ties - The Economic Times - March 24th, 2026 [March 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton's Transformation Since Meeting Bill Has Been A Sight To See - women.com - March 24th, 2026 [March 24th, 2026]
- Hillary Clinton caught on video stepping back after pushy former president nudges her at busy NYC intersection - Fox News - March 13th, 2026 [March 13th, 2026]