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Please understand this BREXITERS This is not something that the EU is doing to the U.K., this is something that the U.K. has chosen to do to itself and to the rest of the EU they have opted to leave,

Posted on 7/19/17 | 12:26 AM CEST

Completely agreed all countries are better of the in the EU just look at a Greece. Right there is proof that EU wins at everything

Posted on 7/19/17 | 2:06 AM CEST

@Madhava Greece joined in 1981. Both GDP and GDP per capita are up since then. They are down since 2008, too. But the article was about how prepared the Brits are, or not, for negotiations.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 3:29 AM CEST

I am a veteran trade negotiator. he said

Yes a veteran for the EU which takes 10 years to do a deal. Nobody else in the world takes 10 years. And the EU has only done trade deals with economies much smaller than iteself, like Canada, and it still took 8 years.

Dont brag about EU incompetence. The rest of the world does not take so long.

@MLB nobody is thinking anything. We think the EU is incompetent which is why we left. We fully expect them to be incompetent whilst we are leaving.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 9:08 AM CEST

10 Years with WTO rules we will be able to rebuild our manufacturing base.

Then EU will want a Partnership Agreement with us.

Doesnt matter anyway Russia will take Kharkiv to Odessa very shortly and finally sink the EU they will sink quicker than the Bismarck as we say in Essex.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 9:38 AM CEST

Deals are always easy if you have a gun in hand and the other party not. They also dont last nor are they efficient. The Soviet bloc is a perfect example. If equal partners sit at a table you have to get to a consensus, a deal that everyone can live with. And that takes time. For Britain to say we are out but lets pretend that for those parts that suit us we are still in just doesnt work. Whitehall will find out that making decisions without consulting Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland will not work and I doubt that they will get it done in two years time. So they will have to take a hard exit and that will really let the dogs loose. Shooting off the hip may work in cowboy films but not in the real world just ask the USA.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 9:46 AM CEST

Actually, the EU is as responsible as others single market does not truly exist, as it is based on the EU definition that includes services, which does not truly exist. You only have to look at the single market to see that what has been in the interests of France and Germany has been taken into consideration. The current state no longer appeals to the UK as it is not in the UKs national interest, but rather than have a debate and make the EU stronger the EU refused to offer reform to DC and it subsequently led to the BREXIT vote. I wonder what will happen to free movement at the point that it is no longer of interest to France and Germany (remember the French are already putting limitations on French speaking for certain contracts and then there is the posted worker directive). Just think of the consequences when Austria close the Italian border and Turkey allow migrants to filter through just to ramp up the pressure for September all because of migrants (and in the Italy example, visa travel).

Posted on 7/19/17 | 10:18 AM CEST

Im not British, but very much a Brexiteer. Whatever deal is struck between Uk and EU, I demand a referendum on it. I will vote no.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 11:22 AM CEST

wow

Yes a veteran for the EU which takes 10 years to do a deal. Nobody else in the world takes 10 years.

Trans-Pacific Partnership Started negotiations in 2005, signed in 2016, eleven years, its main partner, the US, bails out in 2017 ASEANChina Free Trade Area Started negotiations in November 2000, came into effect in January 2010

And the EU has only done trade deals with economies much smaller than iteself, like Canada, and it still took 8 years.

Glad that you mention it, today Canada is running negotiations for FTAs with eight countries or associations, with India the negotiations started in 2010, no sign of a final deal, with Japan, thats five years now, with the Andean Community, well, that started out in 2007, with Singapore, those started out in wait 2001. And so on. Yes, a great big chunk of the planet does indeed take its time when negotiating trade.

Dont brag about EU incompetence. The rest of the world does not take so long.

Thats simply not true, examples of trade deals between two non UE countries taking a decade to be signed are legion. Whats impressive is that the European Union, twenty eight countries mind you, can actually behave like in such a way that those deals can be made and signed in roughly the same amount of time that takes the likes of China, the US or Japan.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 12:55 PM CEST

Thats fine, the EU gets its money settlement at the end of the process of agreeing the future arrangements. If it can wait, we can too.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 1:57 PM CEST

Sintra: the average time the US takes to agree an FTA is actually 8 months. Its actually easy when you try.

Posted on 7/19/17 | 1:59 PM CEST

@Sintra

It is not only the Brits that think this. Here are some headlines for you from around the world:

Canada walks out on European trade talks after impasse reached

If the EU cannot do trade, what can it do? The Economist

Canada is right to be furious about European Union trade negotiations

Whats the Matter With Europe? The New York Times

Francois Fillon blasts European Union as inefficient and useless

EU is inefficient, makes poor decisions: Shore Capital CNBC . com

Criticism mounts over the EUs inefficiency POLITICO

Decision-Making and Disarray in the EU Geopolitical Futures

Corruption across EU breathtaking says the EU Commission BBC News

EU covers up EU corruption Trade Union

Corruption costs EU up to 990 billion a year POLITICO

Is The European Union Too Big And Bound To Fail? Forbes

Cheerio then and start being a bit more sensible and stop being so over emotional for just one day will you please lovely europeans. Its getting tiring over here in the channel. Grow up maybe?

Posted on 7/19/17 | 2:26 PM CEST

Read the original post:
EU ambassador to US: UK doesn't understand Brexit - POLITICO.eu