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As the Jan. 6 hearings continue, women of The View think Mike Pence is starting to get a bit too much praise for his actions after the 2020 elections. On Friday, they took particular issue with the idea that the former VP is being seen as a hero for refusing to help former President Donald Trump stage a coup.

To kick off the days Hot Topics, moderator Whoopi Goldberg pointed out how much of Thursdays hearing focused on just how hard Pence was pressured by Trump and his allies to block the results of the 2020 election. Some are framing him as a hero who rose to the occasion, Whoopi said. But I kind of think he was actually doing his job. His job was qualify the election, right? So does this really qualify as heroic?

And for the most part, the answer of the table was no.

Doing your job should not label you heroic, co-host Ana Navarro said. It should label you responsible. He had one job that day: to certify the election. That was it.

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That said, Navarro did admit that shes of two minds on this one, simply because the possibilities of what mightve happened if Pence had caved are pretty terrifying.

When you take a look at the pressure campaign that Donald Trump engaged in, and his minions, for so long against against Pence listen, he was putting his political career and it turns out his life at risk, Navarro continued. We didnt know it at the time, he probably didnt know it at the time. And I dont know what we would have done if he had succumbed. If he had said, Im not going to certify these elections, or These elections are illegitimate, I dont know what would have happened that day with that mob out there already. You know, it could have led to terrible, terrible, terrible consequences. So I do think he needs to be commended for his actions that day.

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Navarro added though, that Pences refusal to overturn a free and fair election does not erase four years of complicity to Trumps other actions. At that, Joy Behar and Sunny Hostin readily agreed, with Behar questioning why Pence didnt step in after Trump tried to blackmail Ukraine and its president Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

But, based on those past actions of Trump, Hostin noted that realistically, its hard for Pence to not look good in this instance.

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I think that after being complicit for four years, he doesnt get hero status. But at this point, the bar is pretty low, Hostin said.

You can watch the full segment from The View in the video above.

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The View Hosts Say Mike Pence Is No Hero for Defying Trumps Election Lies: He Had One Job That Day (Video) - Yahoo Entertainment

Former Vice President Mike Pence will travel to Cincinnati on Thursday alongside Gov. Mike DeWine for a roundtable with members ofOhio's natural gas and oil industry.

While the topic will be domestic energy,Pence's visit comes amid a much bigger drama.

On the same day, the U.S. House Jan. 6 commission is expected to examine how former President Donald Trump pressured Pence to overturn the election.

Pence has not testified before the committee. But he's played a central role in the testimony about the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection. Pence's refusal to support Trump's plan to stay in power drew Trump's wrath, according to testimony from the Jan. 6 committee.

U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, a Wyoming Republican who serves as vice chair of the committee, said this past Thursday testimony will show Trump responded to the rioter's calls to "hang Mike Pence" by sayingthat maybe our supporters have the right idea" and that Mike Pence "deserves it.

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The roundtable won't be open to the public. It will be hosted by the Ohio Oil and Gas Energy Education Program.

Pence will also be in town to raise money for Rep. Steve Chabot's reelection campaign at the home of Nancy and David Aichholz, according to an invitation sent out by the GOP.

Individual tickets cost $500 and a "VIP roundtable" with Pence costs $2,900.

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Mike Pence comes to Cincinnati as he becomes focus of Jan. 6 committee - The Cincinnati Enquirer

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Gov. Mike DeWine will appear with Ex-Vice President Mike Pence in Ohio later this week at an event promoting the states oil and natural gas industry.

Pence and DeWine are taking part in a Thursday roundtable in Cincinnati hosted by the Ohio Oil and Gas Energy Education Program, a public outreach arm of the industry, discussing the importance of domestically produced fossil fuels, according to event organizers. The talk, coordinated through a new political group Pence founded, wont be open to the public.

While in Ohio, a Pence aide said the former vice president also will appear at private campaign fundraisers for DeWine and Rep. Steve Chabot, a Cincinnati Republican who was drawn into a Democratic-leaning district following redistricting earlier this year.

The timing is eyebrow-raising, given the featured role Pence is playing in this weeks congressional hearings investigating the causes of the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. The committee plans a hearing to examine the steps ex-President Donald Trump took to pressure Pence to unilaterally reject the results of the November 2020 election, and Pences insistence that he had no right to do so.

The appearance in Ohio also is the latest sign that Pence is trying to stay politically relevant in an electorally significant state. Pence has sent signals he may run for president in 2024, telling the New York Times last month he may do so even if Trump decides to run for another term himself.

Pence has emerged as something of an unlikely rival to Trump, who has broken with Pence over the former vice-presidents refusal to embrace Trumps false claims about the 2020 presidential election. Hes also scheduled to appear this week in Arizona to talk about border security, and campaigned in Georgias Republican primary last month, stumping for incumbent Gov. Brian Kemp as he fended off a Trump-backed challenger.

Pence, a former Indiana governor, was last in Ohio in late October, when he made a campaign-style trio of appearances a few days before the Nov. 2 special election.

On Oct. 29, Pence spoke at the conservative Ashbrook Center at Ashland University. The next day, he stumped for Republican Rep. Mike Carey shortly before Carey ended up winning the election, and spoke at a conservative evangelical church in suburban Columbus.

Pence previously spoke at an Ohio Oil & Gas Association event in 2019, while he was still vice-president. He and DeWine were in frequent contact in 2020, when Pence coordinated the Trump administrations coronavirus response with state governors.

In a statement, Tricia McLaughlin, a DeWine campaign spokesperson, said the event will give the governor a chance to talk about the current record-high gas prices, laying the blame at President Joe Biden.

Gov. DeWine looks forward to joining former Vice President Pence to discuss real solutions to give Ohioans much-needed gas-price relief, McLaughlin said.

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Wake up America

I cant believe Im saying this, but thank God for Mike Pence.One of the few in the GOP who actually stood up for democracy on Jan. 6, 2021.He, not Trump and his millions of lemminglike minions, was a true patriot and showed tremendous courage in standing up to those who wanted to overturn a fairly won election.Wake up America, see things as they are, and not how Trump and Fox News want you to see them.

Rattling my windows

Overall, code enforcement is a great thing to help beautify the town.The focus should really be on significant abusers.Trash in yards, broken windows, dilapidated structures.However, what is a weed to one person is not to another. I frown upon the use of herbicides to control my lawn weeds, and I have moved toward planting gardens which are full of native wildflowers.These are a proven benefit to native birds and insects.Now I fear Ill be fined because Im trying to be environmentally conscious. How about also going after speeders, those with fully tinted windows, and booming bass music which rattles my house multiple times at night.

Long line

Waited 90 minutes in line to pay taxes today. No senior line. No handicap line. Thanks, Lake County.

What a statesman

To the incredibly informed reader who was waxing poetic about recalling $2 gallons of gas under the Trump administration: I actually remember 99 cent gallons of gas under the Trump administration. I also remember why there were 99 cent gallons of gas.I think it was a fool downplaying coronavirus who wanted to blame a foreign country for its spread vs taking action to protect the citizens of this country.I also remember bleach being suggested by said fool for treating the virus in the human body. Another thing I remember was someone who didnt care, and still doesnt care, about American democracy, and wanting to reverse election results based on zero evidence.What a statesman he was, and still is.

We are all flawed

A Republican friend visited from Florida and said Trump was the lesser of two evils when it came to Biden. A relative who is a Democrat always says Biden was the lesser of two evils. Neither would ever consider crossing party lines when it comes to voting. Funny how both parties think theyre right about everything, when in fact no one has all the answers. More reason to get rid of party lines. No one is a perfect choice. We are all flawed. We have lost any sense of working together with compromise. Good grief, what happened to us?

Something seriously wrong

There is something seriously wrong with Ann Taylors city of Waukegan administration regarding her special event planning and permitting processes. Waukegan residents do not have a farmers market again this year due to Taylors cumbersome process, poor planning and execution, while neighboring municipalitiesmanage to pull this off year after year. Taylor needs to place a higher priority on streamlining her special events planning and permitting processes and working more effectively with community boosters such as Main Street, the Chamber of Commerces, local businesses, community action groups, and residents so Waukegan can be a place that can successfully host special events insteadof continuing on with cumbersome processes that are clearly not working.

We should never forget

First, I would like see them limitthe terms ofall of these politicians.We need changes.Next, it would be nice to see them make limits on the money spent for people running for officeThis would give the little guy a chance.Next, I would like to see a list of all politicians not voting for the gunlaws, that are important.Nothing changes no matter how many children are killed.Do you think it would make a difference if some of these politicians had their childkilled in these massschool shootings?Would they make sure certain laws got changed?After each mass shooting, within months it is forgotten about until the next one. We should never forget.

Long overdue

Its high time Waukegan got some professionalism in government. Mayor Taylor won her election campaigning for a Waukegan city administrator. Aldermen Bolton, Kirkwood, Moisio, Newsome and Seger voted against it. What are they afraid of? That theyll actually be held accountable for their actions? That theyll actually have to do their jobs with their feet held to the fire? That theyll get caught? All their talk about the need for a referendum is a smoke screen to allow them to keep doing their business as usual without any oversight. Lets support Mayor Taylor and her work to improve Waukegan. Its long overdue.

Changes are coming

I dont understand these soft-on-crime, lefty liberals that pose as prosecutors and mayors. They support low or no bail laws that keep criminals on the streets. If they think its their job to keep people out of jail, why are they not public defenders or members of some ACLU-funded front group? Well, it was good to see that even in the peoples republic of San Francisco, they have a bit of sense to kick out their radical district attorney. Changes are coming and Democrats are going to have a hard time getting elected dogcatcher.

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Talk of the County reader opinion: 'I can't believe I'm saying this, but thank God for Mike Pence' - Chicago Tribune

WASHINGTON A day after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, Eric Herschmann, a White House lawyer, received an unexpected call from the conservative lawyer John Eastman, who had been working with President Donald J. Trump to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

To Mr. Herschmanns surprise even after the deadly riot Mr. Eastman was still pushing to fight the election results, an effort that resulted in mayhem and violence.

Mr. Herschmann cut him off.

Im going to give you the best free legal advice youre ever getting in your life, he recalled telling Mr. Eastman before recommending he find a criminal defense lawyer, adding, Youre going to need it.

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol released video of Mr. Herschmanns testimony as it previewed a hearing Thursday in which the panel plans to delve into the pressure campaign Mr. Trump and Mr. Eastman waged against Vice President Mike Pence as they tried to persuade him to throw out legitimate electoral votes for Joseph R. Biden Jr. to keep Mr. Trump in power.

President Trump had no factual basis for what he was doing, and he had been told it was illegal, Representative Liz Cheney, Republican of Wyoming and the vice chairwoman of the committee, said in a video previewing the hearing.

Thursdays hearing is expected to include potentially important revelations about the steps Mr. Trump and his allies took to try to compel his vice president to overturn the election.

J. Michael Luttig, a conservative former judge who advised the vice president, is scheduled to testify. Judge Luttig advised Mr. Pence that Mr. Trumps idea that the vice president could unilaterally decide to invalidate election results was unconstitutional and that he should not go along with the plan.

Also scheduled to appear is Greg Jacob, Mr. Pences top White House lawyer, who has provided the committee with crucial evidence about the role played by Mr. Eastman, who wrote a memo that members of both parties have described as a blueprint for a coup.

Mr. Eastman advised Mr. Trump that Mr. Pence could throw out electoral votes from states he had lost, though he conceded during a conversation with Mr. Jacob that his arguments carried no legal weight and would fail before the Supreme Court.

As the mob attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 some of them chanting Hang Mike Pence! Mr. Jacob sent an email to Mr. Eastman blaming him for the violence.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege, Mr. Jacob wrote at 12:14 p.m.

It was gravely, gravely irresponsible for you to entice the president with an academic theory that had no legal viability, Mr. Jacob wrote in a subsequent email to Mr. Eastman.

The committee could also hear testimony about Mr. Trumps state of mind during the violence.

Ms. Cheney said last week that the panel had received testimony that when Mr. Trump learned of the mobs threats to hang Mr. Pence, he said, Maybe our supporters have the right idea, and added that Mr. Pence deserves it.

The committee could also hear testimony that a day before the mob violence, Mr. Pences chief of staff, Marc Short, grew so concerned about Mr. Trumps actions that he presented a warning to a Secret Service agent: The president was going to publicly turn against the vice president, and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.

The committee on Tuesday postponed a hearing that was scheduled for Wednesday to lay out its findings about Mr. Trumps attempt to use the Justice Department to overturn the 2020 election.

Its just technical issues, said Representative Zoe Lofgren, Democrat of California and a member of the committee. She said that for staff aides who were compiling a series of videos to be showcased at the session, it was overwhelming, so were trying to give them a little room.

Maggie Haberman contributed reporting.

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Jan. 6 Panel Hints at Fresh Revelations as Hearing Is Delayed - The New York Times