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Trumps January 6 Strategy Was All About Mike Pence

The joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021, reconvenes after insurrectionists interrupted it. Photo: Erin Schaff/UPI/Shutterstock

On the chaotic day of January 6, 2021, it was not really clear what Donald Trump and his allies were trying to accomplish in challenging the confirmation of Joe Bidens election in Congress, even as Trump incited a mob of his followers to assault the Capitol in the middle of those proceedings.

It was well known at the time (mostly because the vice-president released a statement about it that very day) that Mike Pence had rejected big-time pressure from Trump to use his position as the presiding officer of the joint session of Congress to deny Biden his victory and/or declare Trump the winner. But its only become clearer that disrupting Bidens confirmation via Pence wasnt just an outlandish idea quickly laid to rest it was Plan A. Trump hadnt given up on the gambit even as the fateful hour arrived. If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election, the president told his supporters just before they headed to the Capitol.

Weve learned a lot in the intervening year about the days just prior to January 6 and what the various players in the drama were thinking. Not all claims about Trumps strategy are terribly credible. (See former Trump staffer Peter Navarros recent assertions about the Green Bay sweep, a scheme he cooked up with Steve Bannon to delay certification of Bidens win, which makes zero sense because of the Democratic control of Congress.) But we now know that behind the scenes the White House kept lobbying Pence to derail Bidens confirmation up to the last minute, and Pence continued waffling, asking various advisers if there might be a way to succor the Boss without arrogating unconstitutional or illegal powers to himself.

The breadth and persistence of Trumps reliance on Pence for salvation was made most evident by the famous Eastman memo, which first surfaced publicly in a book by Washington Post reporters in September 2021. The final version of this memo, clearly addressed to Pence, was dated January 3. It is indisputable that Trump approved of Eastmans strategy, whose language and (such as it was) logic was echoed by the president on January 6.

Though Eastman laid out multiple scenarios for a Pence coup on January 6, all of them were based on an eccentric constitutional theory holding that the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which sets out procedures for the finalization of states electoral-vote counts, was an unconstitutional abrogation of the vice-presidents all-but-sovereign power under the 12th Amendment to decide which electors to recognize and count. The memo devotes a lot of space to giving Pence specious reasons to reject Biden electors from six states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin). Most crucially, Eastman offered Pence the choice of recognizing self-designated Trump electors from those states (definitely a reach) or just refusing to recognize any electors. The latter scenario could have produced a Trump victory on grounds that he won a majority of the recognized electors or thrown the election to the House on grounds that the Electoral College had failed to reach a decision.

Eastman also presented a cop-out option, to adjourn the joint session and throw the matter back to the states, which might have become more tempting to Pence as the events of January 6 unfolded:

VP Pence determines that the ongoing election challenges must conclude before ballots can be counted, and adjourns the joint session of Congress, determining that the time restrictions in the Electoral County [sic] Act are contrary to his authority under the 12th Amendment and therefore void. Taking the cue, state legislatures convene, order a comprehensive audit/investigation of the election returns in their states, and then determine whether the slate of electors initially certified is valid, or whether the alternative slate of electors should be certified by the legislature.

This scenario is clearly what Trump had in mind when he said this to the mob on January 6:

States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice-President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.

And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: Mike, that doesnt take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage.

So we have it straight from the horses mouth that on January 6 he was still urging Pence to do nothing and send it back to the states before Bidens victory could be confirmed, sweeping aside the timetable set out in the Electoral Count Act. As Eastman cynically noted, had Pence just gaveled the session adjourned, it might have left no immediate recourse for Congress:

The main thing here is that VP Pence should exercise his 12th Amendment authority without asking for permission either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court.

It seems Pence may have still been wavering immediately before the joint session because his team consulted revered conservative legal authority Michael Luttig (for whom Eastman had once clerked) on the morning of January 6. Fortunately, Luttig rejected Eastmans take on the 12th Amendment powers of the veep, and his views were incorporated into Pences statement just before the session began.

Patriotic legal thinkers and policy-makers who want to keep this nightmare scenario from recurring might want to spend some time burying Eastmans veep as God construction of the 12th Amendment lest it rise again in 2024 or beyond. Legal scholar Matthew Seligman poured multiple shovels of dirt on it in an October 21, 2021, academic treatise debunking the whole outrageously dangerous notion. As he told me in an email: The absurd theory that the Vice President has this monarchical power to decide the election has to be so widely and decisively rejected that no one within earshot of the Oval Office would dare utter it in the future.The final moment of truth shouldnot come down to the conscience of a person who was told he had the power to install himself in office.

But in the heat of the moment on January 6, after Team Trumps many legal and political efforts to forestall his defeat had failed, swaying the famously sycophantic Mike Pence remained the only real play. They had run out of time to do anything else. And while this is speculative, it strikes me as likely that one of Trumps chief motives in sending the mob toward the Capitol on January 6 was to put a final burst of pressure on Pence to do the right thing, perhaps by creating so much chaos in the electoral-vote-count process that an adjournment might seem reasonable.

In the end, Pence would not go along, leaving to the judgment of history whether he should be regarded as a great hero for rejecting pressure to execute an election coup or more of an ambiguous figure thanks to his previous loyalty to a scofflaw president. There was certainly every reason for Trump to hope against hope that Pence could at least be counted on to throw some sand in the gears of the process leading to Joe Bidens inauguration on January 20. And that might be enough to constitute a strategy for a seat-of-the-pants presidency built on Donald Trumps narcissism and the willingness of subordinates to tell him what he wanted to hear at any cost.

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In the Oval Office last week, the day before the vote, Mr. Trump pushed Mr. Pence in a string of encounters, including one meeting that lasted at least an hour. John Eastman, a conservative constitutional scholar at Chapman University, was in the office and argued to Mr. Pence that he did have the power to act.

The next morning, hours before the vote, Richard Cullen, Mr. Pences personal lawyer, called J. Michael Luttig, a former appeals court judge revered by conservatives and for whom Mr. Eastman had once clerked. Mr. Luttig agreed to quickly write up his opinion that the vice president had no power to change the outcome, then posted it on Twitter.

Within minutes, Mr. Pences staff incorporated Mr. Luttigs reasoning, citing him by name, into a letter announcing the vice presidents decision not to try to block electors. Reached on Tuesday, Mr. Luttig said it was the highest honor of my life to play a role in preserving the Constitution.

After the angry call cursing Mr. Pence, Mr. Trump riled up supporters at the rally against his own vice president, saying, I hope he doesnt listen to the RINOs and the stupid people that hes listening to.

He set Mike Pence up that day by putting it on his shoulders, said Ryan Streeter, an adviser to Mr. Pence when he was the governor of Indiana. Thats a pretty unprecedented thing in American politics. For a president to throw his own vice president under the bus like that and to encourage his supporters to take him on is something just unconscionable in my mind.

Mr. Pence was already in his motorcade to the Capitol by that point. When the mob burst into the building, Secret Service agents evacuated him and his wife and children, first to his office off the floor and later to the basement. His agents urged him to leave the building, but he refused to abandon the Capitol. From there, he spoke with congressional leaders, the defense secretary and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff but not the president.

A Republican senator later said he had never seen Mr. Pence so angry, feeling betrayed by a president for whom he had done so much. To Mr. Trump, one adviser said, the vice president had entered Sessions territory, referring to Jeff Sessions, the attorney general who was tortured by the president before being fired. (A vice president cannot be dismissed by a president.)

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  3. The Jan. 6 committee asked Trump lawyer John Eastman about his communications with Sen. Mike Lee. Eastman took the Fifth.  Salt Lake Tribune
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Former President Donald Trump among those invited to New Orleans retreat this weekend – WWLTV.com

Trump is on the guest list, along with Former Vice President Mike Pence, Louisiana Lt. Gov. Billy Nungesser, and most of Louisiana's Republican lawmakers.

NEW ORLEANS Former President Donald Trump is expected to be in New Orleans Friday for the Republican National Committee's spring retreat.

Trump is on the list of special guests, along with Former Vice President Mike Pence, Louisiana Lieutenant Governor Billy Nungesser, and most of Louisiana's Republican members of Congress.

The event was announced in January and all guests must be pre-registered.

Part of last year's spring retreat was held at Trump's resort in Florida.

The list of guests also includes Sens. Rick Scott, Ron Johnson, Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, Reps. Steve Scalise, Garret Graves, Mike Johnson, Clay Higgins, Julia Letlow.

The former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, and Kellyanne Conway are also on the list of people expected to attend.

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Stanford Students React to Pence Speech With Disgust and Disrespect – Stanford Review

Wheres the bathroom? I really need to take a sh*t.

Would you rather have a gay son or a thot daughter?

YOUR MOMS A HO!!!

Remarks like these conjure thoughts of a middle school Discord server or a couple of 12-year-olds making fun of each other after school no critical thinking, no seriousness, just immaturity. So, it was confusing to hear Stanford students direct these remarks towards the 48th Vice President of the United States during his campus visit.

Two weeks ago, the Stanford College Republicans (SCR) held a speaker event featuring former Vice President Mike Pence titled, How to Save America from The Woke Left. Stanfords student government (the ASSU) initially withheld funding for the event, but after a battle in the Constitutional Council, the ASSU was forced to provide funding and the event was approved. The event was a victory for free speech on Stanfords campus and a triumph over students who try to prevent conservative speakers from coming to Stanford in the name of safety.

But free speech is not just the act of allowing someone to be present on campus; it is to allow them to speak and present their views in a way such that they can be challenged intellectually during questioning. While the Vice President was technically able to deliver his speech, student heckling (quoted from at the beginning of this piece) routinely interrupted him. Students watched the drama between the Vice President and the hecklers unfold, laughed, and took part in counter-chants rather than seriously considering the points being made.

Those protesting outside the event venue did not prevent anyone from hearing Pences remarks. However, some inside began yelling F*** YOU! as soon as Pence started speaking, shouted inane responses to his claims, and used the Q&A session to debut their dead-end comedy careers. The hecklers not only prevented people from hearing, understanding, and engaging with the Vice Presidenta once in a lifetime opportunity for mostthey also conveyed a clear lack of respect for one of the highest offices in the nation.

The disrespect conveyed by some students cheapened the experience for everyone else. Because interested students were unable to carefully consider the speakers message, they may become less likely to consider alternative points of view as a result. When a speaker's ideas are ridiculed in such a pointed and belittling manner, it creates a sense of intellectual forbiddenness. This prevents the vast majority of students, who are still young adults trying to refine their worldviews, from obtaining a well-rounded learning experience.

In a hyperpolarized political climate, disrespect for authority figures like Vice President Pence is deeply concerning. How can we expect to foster dialogue if societys future leaders at universities like Stanford cannot bring themselves to give the bare minimum of respect to our nations leaders? The ability to express differing viewpoints is only half the battle. Nurturing a culture of decency and basic respect for individuals, regardless of their political or ideological affiliation, is the next challenge, and perhaps a far more difficult one.

This isnt just a question of left versus right, its a question of the integrity of Stanford as an academic institution. For Stanford to fulfill its mission, it must expose students to information from a variety of sources. A fundamental prerequisite for learning from a source is to have respect for itotherwise no one would give any consideration to the information coming from it. As such, it is my hope that Stanfords administration views the Pence event as a wake-up call. The University must address the culture of disrespect to fulfill its responsibility as an educational institution and to preserve its commitment to its self-proclaimed mission: to advance knowledge and contribute to society through research and the education of future leaders.

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