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Courtesy The Obama Foundation From left: former President Barack Obama with his mother, Ann Dunham, in Hawaii in the '60s

Barack Obama remembers thinking "you can do anything and be anybody" you want during his first trip to the mainland U.S. as a child.

The former president was raised in Hawaii for most of his childhood before moving to Los Angeles after high school, later finishing his studies at Columbia University in New York City and then Harvard University in Boston.

But when he was about 11 years old, Obama flew to the U.S. with his mother, grandmother and 2-year-old sister, Maya, for a road trip across the country.

Obama, now 59, recalls the trip on the latest episode of his new Renegades podcast with friend Bruce Springsteen.

"I remember looking out a Greyhound buses and looking out of trains and looking out of car windows," Obama tells the 71-year-old Springsteen. "Just miles of corn or miles of desert, or miles of forest, or miles of mountains."

Staring out of the bus window, Obama says, he was "just thinking, 'Man, imagine where you can go. You can go anywhere, and by implication, you can do anything and be anybody.' "

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Nikki Kahn/The Washington Post via Getty Images Bruce Springsteen (left) and Barack Obama (right) in 2012

Obama says the family first flew to Seattle where his mother, Ann Dunham, had attended college for a year shortly after he was born.

From Seattle, they took a Greyhound bus to San Francisco and then to L.A., before taking a train to Arizona. After working their way down the West Coast, the future president and his family went to Kansas City then up to Chicago before renting a car and driving to Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming.

"My mother didn't drive," Obama tells Springsteen, because she didn't have a license. So that meant a pre-teen Obama was tasked with riding shotgun and directing his grandma, Madelyn Dunham.

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"My grandmother drove but she's starting to go a little blind," Obama says on the podcast with a laugh. "I remember being put in the front seat at around twilight so that I can direct my grandmother properly as we're hitting some of these turns in the road."

That's when Obama says he first saw the expansive landscapes of the continental U.S.

"For me, part of the essential aspect of being an American is getting out of where you are," he tells Springsteen in Monday's podcast episode, as they share stories with each other about traveling across the U.S. and how those trips inspired them throughout their lives.

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Steve Liss/The LIFE Images Collection via Getty Barack Obama when he was a student at Harvard University

"You and I could jump in [my] Corvette and go to Route 66," Springsteen jokes with Obama. "Though, Michelle [Obama] and Patti [Springsteen] might kick our asses, right?"

"Yeah, I don't know how far we'd get," Obama responds.

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He and Springsteen launched their Renegades podcast series on Spotify last month. The streaming service said they would share "personal" and "revealing" stories that reflected broader discussions about the country.

Renegades is "a personal, in-depth discussion between two friends exploring their pasts, their beliefs, and the country that they loveas it was, as it is, and as it ought to be going forward," Spotify said.

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Barack Obama revealed when he was a kid, he once responded to racism with violence ... by popping his own friend in the nose.

The former President was speaking with Bruce Springsteen on their new Spotify podcast, "Renegades: Born in the USA," and amid a wide-ranging conversation about their lives, politics, music and race ... Obama recalled the incident with a classmate.

He says the kid was a friend he played basketball with, and one time they got into a fight and his friend called him a racial slur ... different from the n-word.

Obama says he doesn't even think his schoolmate knew what the word meant -- just that it was meant to be hurtful -- so he "popped him in the face and broke his nose" while they were in the locker room.

Obama says his friend asked him why he did that, and he told him ... "Don't ever call me something like that."

According to Spotify ... Barack and Bruce have been friends since they met on the campaign trail in 2008. The Prez awarded the famous singer the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2016.

Their podcast series is a 6-parter ... with the third episode coming soon.

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The president and the rock star met on the 2008 campaign trail, and over the years they have cultivated a warm friendship. In January 2017, as Obama was preparing to leave office, Springsteen gave an intimate, career-spanning performance at the White House, which he then developed into his solo show on Broadway. In Renegades, Obama, 59, and Springsteen, 71, laugh heartily as they recount some of the meals, chats and impromptu singalongs they have shared.

Dan Fierman, the head of Higher Ground Audio, said that Michelle Obamas experience making her show last year spurred the former president to create his own podcast, and he selected Springsteen as his interlocutor. Their first recording session took place on July 30, just hours after Obama delivered the eulogy for John Lewis, the civil rights hero and congressman from Georgia.

Their conversation mingles the personal and the mythic. Obama discusses growing up in Hawaii with the confusion and discomfort of being of mixed race I wasnt easily identifiable; I felt like an outsider, he says and they each share lessons of masculinity they drew from the failings of their own fathers.

They are a mutual admiration society. Springsteen, who now and then picks up a guitar, tells the story of his 1984 song My Hometown, with its echoes of racial conflict in the 1960s. He marvels at the universality and patriotism that comes through when concert crowds roar out its line, This is your hometown.

I always get a sense that they know the town theyre talking about isnt Freehold, Springsteen says, referring to where he grew up in New Jersey. Its not Washington. Its not Seattle. Its the whole thing its all of America. Brief pause. Its a good song.

Its a great song, Obama quickly adds.

The show reflects a big-tent centrism that has long been part of both mens approach. Springsteen released a Jeep ad during the latest Super Bowl his first commercial ever that called for Americans to meet in the middle.

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O-T Fagbenle is set to play President Barack Obama opposite Viola Davis Michelle Obama in Showtimes anthology series The First Lady, headlined by Davis, Michelle Pfeiffer and Gillian Anderson. Davis executive produces, the series,directed and executive produced by Susanne Bier and produced by Lionsgate TV and Showtime.

TheFirst Lady, created by Aaron Cooley, is a revelatory reframing of American leadership, told through the lens of the women at the heart of the White House. Season 1 focuses on Eleanor Roosevelt (Anderson), Betty Ford (Pfeiffer) and Michelle Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama II served as the first African American and 44th president of the United States from 2009-17. A member of the Democratic Party, Barack married Michelle Robinson Obama in 1992 before he became an Illinois state senator in 2005. Barack and Michelle are the parents of Malia and Sasha Obama.

Fagbenle, who will be recurring, joins fellow co-stars Aaron Eckhart, Rhys Wakefield, Judy Greer, Jayme Lawson and Kristine Froseth.

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Cooley and Bier executive produce the series along with Davis, Julius Tennon and Andrew Wang via JuVee Productions, Cathy Schulman via her Welle Entertainment, Jeff Gaspin via Gaspin Media, Brad Kaplan via Link Entertainment.

Fagbenle is known for his work in Hulus The Handmaids Tale. He next can be seen co-starring opposite Scarlett Johansson in Marvels Black Widow, which is slated for release in May. In April 2020, Fagbenle became the first person to create, write, direct, compose, executive produce and star in the pilot of a television series broadcast on a major network with his original TV show Maxxx (Channel 4, Hulu). The multi-hyphenate currently has drama, comedy and non-scripted content in development. He is repped by Buchwald and Curtis Brown Group in London as well as attorney Barry Littman at Hansen Jacobson Teller.

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We won. After four long, traumatic, scary years, Donald Trump is out of the White House. Democrats are in charge of the U.S. House and the Senate too. This victory was hard fought, and it was delivered by a multiracial, multigenerational coalition. Young people, in particular, took a stand across the country, including making calls, registering voters, and turning out in record numbers. We all deserve a moment to celebrate.

The next step, of course, is to turn this hard-won power into real, lasting change. We cant let this opportunity go to waste. For those of us who were around during the last Democratic trifecta, some painful lessons have been learned.

In 2009, as in 2021, the country was in crisis. Wall Streets abuses had set off the Great Recession. Millions of Americans were losing their jobs, homes, and life savings. The damage was greatest for communities of color, according to a 2011 report from the Center for American Progress. The Democratic trifecta led at the time by President Obama was swept into office with a mandate to lead in a very different direction. At that moment, it seemed like tremendous changes were possible in the economy, health care, immigration, and the climate.

I went to Washington after graduating from college in 2008. I worked for Congressman Tom Perriello of VA-05, a freshman Democrat who had defeated a virulently anti-immigrant incumbent in a very red district. I was determined to do my part in bringing about change.

But the window of opportunity closed fast. Democrats passed an underwhelming economic recovery stimulus that wasnt remotely enough to pull us out of the crisis. They spent nearly a year haggling over the Affordable Care Act; the final product, passed in March 2010, was weakened by what appeared to be increasingly desperate compromises. Priorities like climate legislation and immigration reform died in Congress. Democrats were wiped out in the 2010 midterms, losing the House (including VA-05), and with it Obama's chance to pass his full legislative agenda. His final six years would be consumed by gridlock.

Democrats began Obamas administration with control of the House and Senate, and the White House. There should have been nothing standing in our way. How did they let that gridlock happen? How did we let that happen?

Our generation spent that time as the youngest cohort of staffers and organizers in the room but not always at the table and we had a unique front-row seat to this period of history. Weve had a long time to think about what wed want people to know when we next had that opportunity.

Here are the lessons we took away:

Former senate majority leader Mitch McConnells goal was to deny Obama any wins, and then blame Democrats for inaction. He ran that playbook perfectly. For two years Republicans held out the prospect that maybe, just maybe, they would be open to bipartisan legislation if it was smaller, if it was phased in years later, if Democrats took out all the popular stuff. Meanwhile, within months of Obama taking office, the Tea Party was protesting at our offices and swarming town halls. They successfully antagonized and undermined Democrats, further weakening their resolve.

Democrats have a narrow window to pass major legislation. The 2022 election season starts in earnest by the end of this year, and worried Democrats will be calling to weaken the partys agenda. This wont guarantee that Democrats keep their majority, but it will guarantee that we fail to adequately address the devastation people are facing. And that will have electoral consequences. We need to act fast and deliver meaningful legislation that actually makes a difference in peoples lives right now, including the COVID-19 relief package and voting rights legislation.

In 2009, Democrats did not prioritize the kind of structural reforms needed to unrig the rules, and we suffered terribly for it after 2010, when a wave of new Republican legislatures gerrymandered districts. Now a new wave of voter suppression and gerrymandering is on its way in the states. Republicans are attacking our democracy, and if we dont go big to protect it, right now, we wont get another shot. Thats why we need to pass the H.R. 1 For the People Act, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, and make DC a state and we need to do it ASAP.

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