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David Axelrod has lots of thoughts about the probable Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential candidacy most of which come with some criticism of the woman he helped to defeat in the Democratic primary six years ago.

Speaking Thursday at The Wall Street Journals Capital Journal breakfast, the architect of President Barack Obamas winning presidential campaign messages said Mrs. Clinton could serve as a contrast to the Obama presidency.

Even when a president is popular, people tend to seek the remedy and not the replica. They want someone who has the qualities that they miss in the president, Mr. Axelrod said. This tends to be a pendular thing. I think in 2016 people are going to want someone who is a little less nuanced and a little less attuned to the complexity, someone who projects more of a sense of black and white certainty.

That environment favors Hillary Clinton more than the 2008 environment because she tends to be someone who speaks in simple, declarative sentences with great certainty, he said.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Mr. Obamas 2008 campaign was hardly subtle. His campaign plastered CHANGE placards and banners at every event a direct implication that electing Mrs. Clinton would be more of the same. Sure, Mr. Obama often speaks in digressions something that hasnt always been helpful to his presidency.

Throughout the event, Mr. Axelrod attributed the Democrats midterm losses to a failure to articulate a coherent economic message. He included Mrs. Clinton among the offenders, saying that she must get out of the cocoon of inevitability and suggested she is already out in front of the rationale for her candidacy.

Afterward, Mr. Axelrod, who is now based in Chicago, said Mrs. Clinton is perfectly capable of delivering a strong economic pitch to the sort of middle-class voters who will decide the next presidential election. She did so, he said, while campaigning for Pennsylvania Gov.-elect Tom Wolf, but didnt always do so while stumping for other 2014 candidates.

I saw her deliver this message very effectively in 2008, he said. She just got to it way too late.

As far as his own political client, Mr. Axelrod attributed the presidents own communication failures to his inability to hew to an economic message of his own.

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By Kyle Cheney

11/12/14 5:59 PM EST

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Rudy Giuliani, the tough-talking former New York City mayor, has some advice for Republicans who want to beat Hillary Clinton in 2016: Dont be mean.

The wrong way is to be too aggressive, and be too mean, and to ever get personal, he said Wednesday in an interview with POLITICO. The right way to do it is on policy and on true contribution.

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In a wide-ranging, blunt and occasionally expletive-laden interview, Giuliani whose own 2008 bid for the White House fizzled quickly said Clintons central vulnerability will be what her allies have long argued is a strength: her policy rsum. He compared President Barack Obamas political charisma to Ronald Reagans and had a few choice words for former ally Charlie Crist.

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But he reserved his sharpest comments for Clinton, who represented New York in the Senate toward the end of Giulianis second term at City Hall and who has yet to announce whether shell make a second run for the White House.

Shes a candidate who, with her baggage, can be beaten by the right candidate who handles it the right way and by the right campaign who handles it the right way, he said.

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Some people wonder if Hillary Clinton is going to run for president in 2016. Some people have no doubt that she will be running. But some people say that she has been planning for this race for decades.

In a new book titled Clinton, Inc: The Audacious Rebuilding Of A Political Machine by Daniel Halper, the author outlines his case on the ambitions of Hillary Clinton for the White House, even in the early days of Bill Clintons terms.

In those early days, Clinton critics were demanding the release of Hillary Clintons records from her days as a partner at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock as part of the investigation of a now largely forgotten early scandal known as Whitewater.

Mrs. Clinton was reluctant to release documents or to comply with the requests of the special prosecutor in the case.

One aide approached the First Ladys press secretary, Lisa Caputo, then in her midtwenties. Why doesnt she just come fucking forward and release them? The president had no business in the matter. It wont hurt him.

We cant, Caputo replied. Hillarys got her own ambitions.

What do you mean? he asked. It doesnt get better than First Lady.

Well, theres 04. Or 08.

Its always been known that Mrs. Clinton had political ambitions, but never before had an aide confirmed with such assurance that she was envisioning the presidency for herself, even as her husband was just settling in.

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