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Donald J. Trump claims he is ready for his perp walk.

Behind closed doors at Mar-a-Lago, the former president has told friends and associates that he welcomes the idea of being paraded by the authorities before a throng of reporters and news cameras. He has even mused openly about whether he should smile for the assembled media, and he has pondered how the public would react and is said to have described the potential spectacle as a fun experience.

No one is quite sure whether his remarks are bravado or genuine resignation about what lies ahead.

If he is truly looking forward to it, he might be disappointed.

There is no indication, even if Mr. Trump is charged, that the authorities would have him take part in that storied New York City law-enforcement tradition known by detectives and crime reporters alike walking the newly arrested past a cluster of journalists. If Mr. Trump is indicted and surrenders voluntarily, arrangements are likely to be made between the Secret Service and law enforcement toavoida media circus.

Another person who has spoken with Mr. Trump, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said the former president was less concerned with the particulars of where he would be seen than with being assured of the opportunity to show the public he is not slinking away in shame.

As he waits for a likely criminal indictment making him the first current or former American president to face criminal charges Mr. Trump has often appeared significantly disconnected from the severity of his potential legal woes, according to people who have spent time with him in recent days. He has been spotted zipping around his Palm Beach resort in his golf cart and on one recent evening acted as D.J. at a party with his personally curated Spotify playlists, which often include music from the Rolling Stones to The Phantom of the Opera.

When Mr. Trump has focused on the case one of four criminal investigations in Georgia, New York and Washington now facing the front-runner for the Republican Partys presidential nomination he has concentrated on projecting strength and avoiding any signals of shame over his circumstances, an approach that mirrors his handling of repeated political crises and his flair for creating dramatic, made-for-TV moments. Seeing Mr. Trump after a court appearance could also galvanize his supporters, whom Mr. Trump urged over the weekend to protest in the event of his arrest.

He wants to be defiant to show the world that if they can try to do this to him, they can do it to anyone, said one person who spoke to Mr. Trump over the weekend.

A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Trump has been both invigorated and angered by the prospect of being arrested, according to those who have spoken with him. And he hasalso entertained a certain amount of magical thinking.

For decades, according to people who worked with him years ago at the Trump Organization, Mr. Trump who was first criminally investigated in the 1970s was plainly frightened of being arrested. He spent years cultivating officials who might have influence over investigations into him or his company.

He has discussed the prospect that his recent pressure campaign a series of personal, unproven and provocative attacks he has unleashed against investigators, Democrats and fellow Republicans might persuade Alvin L. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, to walk away from the case.

That notion, according to legal experts, is highly unlikely, but Mr. Trump has a long history of believing he can bend external events to his will, and has sometimes succeeded.

Mr. Bragg, who was a senior official in the New York attorney generals office that brought a bevy of lawsuits against Mr. Trumps administration, has publicly stated that his legal decisions would not be swayed by politics.

How Times reporters cover politics.We rely on our journalists to be independent observers. So while Times staff members may vote, they are not allowed to endorse or campaign for candidates or political causes. This includes participating in marches or rallies in support of a movement or giving money to, or raising money for, any political candidate or election cause.

Mr. Trump has a history of emerging from political scandals that would have ruined most traditional politicians.

Even before Mr. Trump was elected, in October 2016, The Washington Post made public an outtake of Mr. Trump doing an interview with Access Hollywood a decade earlier and boasting about grabbing womens genitals without their consent. As Republicans called for him to drop out that weekend, Mr. Trumps impulse was to go to the street, where dozens of his supporters had gathered, and immerse himself in the crowd.

And then years later in2021, Mr. Trump sulked about his political future inside Mar-a-Lago. He had just been impeached for a second time, after his supporters rioted at the Capitol in an attempt to overturn his election defeat. People who spent time with him in those first post-White House months described a startling melancholy in his tone and hints of self-reflection as he sighed about his advanced age and expanding waistband.

The Good Lords given me good health up to now but you never know, he told one person at the time.

But Mr. Trump slowly found relief in a new routine, playing 36 holes of golf a day and timing his arrival at dinner on the Mar-a-Lago terrace with nightly standing ovations from dues-paying members who were already seated. By June, Mr. Trump had again started hosting his signature campaign-style mega-rallies.

Two years later, Mr. Trump has not only defied the expectations of many who believed he would never again seek public office, but he has also emerged as the strong favorite to win his third consecutive Republican presidential nomination.

The experience has intensified Mr. Trumps confidence in his old playbook, and his aides view the pending indictment and the potential for more to come as an asset for the campaign as they use the investigations to increase fund-raising and watch as primary rivals walk a careful line between criticizing prosecutors and backing Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump has again demonstrated his grip on Republican voters. But questions remain about whether his time-tested methods of galvanizing his supporters are worth the political costs he has paid with independent swing voters and moderate Republicans.

These voters have turned on Mr. Trump, as well as many of the candidates and causes he has backed, for three consecutive election cycles that have ended in disappointment for his party.

Mr. Trump, for now, appears content to follow his own formula for crisis communications, a method that eschews long-term planning for short-term gains. Mr. Trump has long emphasized the importance of winning the next headline at virtually any cost and with little regard for what happens next.

On Saturday morning, Mr. Trump set off a frenzied news cycle by announcing on social media that he would be arrested within three days. Mr. Trump then visited one of his nearby golf courses, leaving his team to clarify that he had no direct knowledge of the timing of an arrest.

By Saturday afternoon, Mr. Trump escaped the controversy by flying to the exact location of another past political humiliation: the BOK Center in Tulsa, Okla., where a sparse crowd attended his first pandemic-era rally on June 20, 2020.

This time, on Saturday, Mr. Trump was not standing apart from the crowd but rather walking among it, his dark blue suit and red tie contrasting with a crowd outfitted mostly in T-shirts, hoodies and sports jerseys to watch the N.C.A.A. Division I wrestling championships.

He chatted with wrestlers after their matches, met a few coaches and entertained a few brief chants in his honor a performance aimed at showing swagger and masking any concern about a pending arrest.

Hes entirely focused, one staff member remarked, on the wrestlers.

Jonathan Swan and Ben Fenwick contributed reporting.

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Trump Claims Hes Ready for Perp Walk if Indicted - The New York Times

TheManhattan grand jury investigating Donald Trumpover hush money payments planned to hear testimony on other matters Thursday, seemingly further delaying a vote on whether or not to indict the former president, according to a person familiar with the matter.

There was no immediate explanation for why the grand jury, which did not meet at all on Wednesday, would not take up the Trump matter during its scheduled Thursday session. It was also not clear when or if prosecutors might resume presenting evidence before the panel or when they might ask the group for a decision on bringing historic criminal charges.

The panel is an investigative grand jury, meaning it hears other cases beyond the one centered on hush money payments during the 2016 campaign that were meant to silence the claims of a porn actor who said she had a sexual encounter with Trump years earlier. The person who confirmed that the grand jury would be hearing other matters was not authorized to discuss it and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Grand jury investigations are shrouded in secrecy, with prosecutors prevented by law from sharing any details of what takes place behind closed doors. But these proceedings have captivated public attention on a minute-by-minute basis, each development magnified because the presumed target is a former president and because Trump himself stoked expectations of imminent action by stating without evidence last weekend that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday. That did not happen.

The limited snapshots of the investigation have largely come from witnesses and their attorneys, who dont share the same secrecy obligation as prosecutors.Michael Cohen, Trumps former lawyer and fixer and a key government witness in this case, has spoken publicly about his appearances, as has another recent witness,Robert Costello, an attorney who presented testimony aimed at undermining Cohens credibility.

But the district attorneys office, which is leading the investigation, has offered no public indication of its timing. In a letter sent Thursday to Republican lawmakerswho sought documents and testimony about the investigation, the offices general counsel, Leslie Dudek, wrote that Trump had last weekend created a false expectation on the timing of an arrest, and Dudek reiterated prosecutors obligation to preserve the secrecy of the investigation.

These confidentiality provisions exist to protect the interests of the various participants in the criminal process the defendant, the witnesses and members of the grand jury as well as the integrity of the grand jury proceeding itself, the letter said.

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Tucker reported from Washington.

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The Donald Trump grand jury isnt looking at the Stormy Daniels hush money on Thursday, source says - Fortune

When Michael D. Cohen stood before a federal judge to ask for leniency, he attributed much of his behavior to the influence of one man: Donald J. Trump.

Time and time again, Mr. Cohen told the judge at his sentencing in late 2018, I felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds.

Ever since, Mr. Cohen has made it his work to expose those deeds. He testified for roughly seven hours at a Congressional hearing in 2019, describing Mr. Trump as a liar and a cheater who made racist remarks. Mr. Cohen also met with the special counsel Robert S. Mueller IIIs investigators and federal prosecutors in New York. And he was the impetus for the New York Attorney Generals investigation into Mr. Trumps business practices, laying the groundwork for a lawsuit that accused the former president of inflating his net worth by billions of dollars.

Mr. Cohens transformation from trusted fixer to chief antagonist a 180-degree turn against a man he once vowed to take a bullet for upended his life. He went to prison for 13 months and then faced home confinement for more than a year. He endured years of attacks from Mr. Trumps allies, ultimately emerging with a book deal, cable news appearances and a podcast, Mea Culpa.

Now, Mr. Cohen is poised to seize his biggest moment yet: a day in court against Mr. Trump.

Mr. Cohen is the key witness in the Manhattan district attorneys investigation into a hush-money payment to a porn star named Stormy Daniels. The payment, which Mr. Cohen said he made at Mr. Trumps direction during the final days of the 2016 presidential campaign, blocked Ms. Daniels from telling her story of an affair with Mr. Trump years earlier.

Mr. Cohen has met with the prosecutors some 20 times and recently testified before a grand jury that could indict Mr. Trump as soon as this week, people with knowledge of the matter said. And he has provided documentation that bolsters his testimony, the people added.

On Wednesday, the grand jury did not meet as expected, two people with knowledge of the matter said, meaning that any indictment of the former president would come Thursday at the earliest. The panel may hear from at least one more witness before being asked to vote. Because the proceedings are kept secret, the timing of any charges is unknown.

Mr. Trump has denied having any sexual encounter with Ms. Daniels and accused the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, a Democrat, of carrying out a political witch hunt against him.

Mr. Trumps team and Mr. Cohens critics maintain he is playing a cynical game based on rescuing his reputation and capitalizing on his guilty plea. But his supporters in Congress, in the Democratic Party and on his expansive social media presence credit him with a high-risk decision to challenge a president, and force the first significant cracks in Mr. Trumps edifice.

This account of the long, strange and now historically consequential arc of Mr. Trumps once-loyal lawyer and fixer is drawn from interviews with nearly a dozen people who know him, and records from his various legal entanglements. Collectively, they paint a portrait of a complicated witness a convicted liar and an opportunist, but also a compelling presence, who notes that his lies were on Mr. Trumps behalf, and whose emotional vulnerability and blunt recitation of history prosecutors may rely on to charm a jury.

I know theres a debate about the utilization of Michael as a witness, and that is going to be a colorful cross-examination, said Norman Eisen, who served as the counsel for House Democrats during the first impeachment inquiry and developed a relationship with Mr. Cohen over the course of multiple meetings.

In dealing with me, he has never varied from our first meeting in 2019 to today in the details of what happened both in the hush-money and in the larger financial frauds.

Mr. Cohen, the son of a Holocaust survivor, was a 2003 New York City Council candidate and a mega-fan of Mr. Trumps public persona before going to work for him. He got the job after impressing Mr. Trump, defending him at a condo board meeting at a Trump building in 2006.

And he endeared himself to Mr. Trump by trying to be an indispensable aide and pit bull adviser to a real-estate developer and reality-television star.

Part of his role became anticipating Mr. Trumps whims and desires, and interpreting directions spoken in what Mr. Cohen would later describe as code.

When one of Mr. Trumps friends asked Mr. Trump why he kept Mr. Cohen around, Mr. Trump replied, He has his purpose.

That purpose, Mr. Cohen later said, included cleaning up some of Mr. Trumps messes.

In October 2016, while visiting his daughter in London, Mr. Cohen received calls from top executives at The National Enquirer, which had forged close ties to Mr. Trump over the years. They warned that Ms. Daniels was looking to sell her story.

Within days, Mr. Cohen hammered out the hush money deal with Ms. Danielss lawyer, securing Ms. Danielss silence at a crucial moment for the campaign.

When Mr. Trump won the presidency soon after, Mr. Cohen did not accompany him to Washington, and left behind full-time employment at the Trump Organization to set up an office at the law firm Squire Patton Boggs in Midtown Manhattan.

The Trump presidency was shaping up to be lucrative for Mr. Cohen: He soon had a roster of corporate clients, including a private equity firm, a large pharmaceutical company and even AT&T, as he held himself out as the personal lawyer to the president.

But one issue trailed him: a complaint had been filed with the Federal Election Commission by the good-government group Common Cause about his payment to Ms. Daniels, which was publicly revealed in January 2018 by The Wall Street Journal.

Soon, Mr. Cohen acknowledged to the F.E.C. and The New York Times that he had made the payment, insisting he did it on his own and that neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign had been a party to it. But he would not say whether Mr. Trump had been aware of the payment.

At that time in Washington, Mr. Muellers investigation into whether Mr. Trumps campaign had conspired with Russians in 2016, and whether Mr. Trump had obstructed justice, was proceeding apace. So were congressional investigations into Mr. Trumps connections to Russia.

Mr. Cohen testified to Congress that discussions about a Trump Tower project in Moscow stopped in January 2016. That turned out to be a lie, for which he would later fault Mr. Trump .

Mr. Muellers team was also scrutinizing Mr. Cohen, including for the hush money deal, but soon handed off that inquiry to federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York.

The inquiry came to a head in April 2018, when F.B.I. agents searched Mr. Cohens office, home and a hotel where his family stayed while repair work went on at their apartment, taking emails, business records and other material. The event went off like a political bomb: The personal lawyer for a sitting president was the subject of an F.B.I. search based on probable cause that a crime was committed.

It also imploded Mr. Cohens life. He confided in friends at the time that he was suicidal.

As the search garnered wall-to-wall news coverage, Mr. Cohen received a call from Mr. Trump at the White House, with a message: stay strong.

But as Mr. Cohens legal bills piled up, officials at the family-run Trump Organization began to balk at paying his lawyer, planting the seeds for Mr. Cohens break from a man he once idolized.

Within months, the fracture between Mr. Trump and Mr. Cohen was clear.

Mr. Cohen soon hired Lanny J. Davis, a Democrat and a veteran Washington lawyer who worked in Bill Clintons White House.

Mr. Davis had seen Mr. Cohen on television and reached out to Stephen Ryan, Mr. Cohens lawyer at the time. Soon, Mr. Davis and Mr. Cohen were virtually inseparable.

Mr. Davis and Mr. Cohen had their first conversation in a furtive, middle-of-the-night phone call, with Mr. Davis in a hotel bathroom as he traveled with his family. Mr. Davis told Mr. Cohen that he had a path to winning back his credibility, but it wasnt going to be enough to simply say he was sorry for what he had done. He would have to fully come clean about Mr. Trump. Mr. Cohen said he was ready.

Mr. Davis, affected by Mr. Cohens description of the pain his family had suffered, suggested going public. Ultimately, in early July 2018, Mr. Cohen gave an interview to ABC News in which he suggested his priority was his family, not the president.

The following month, the federal prosecutors in the Southern District readied charges against Mr. Cohen for the hush money and unrelated financial crimes. Mr. Davis said the prosecutors threatened to charge Mr. Cohens wife, Laura, with the financial crimes as well.

Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty in that case, and later, in another case brought by Mr. Mueller related to his congressional testimony about the potential Trump Tower deal in Moscow.

At his first plea hearing, on the hush money payment, Mr. Cohen pointed the finger at Mr. Trump, who he said directed him to pay it, an accusation that prosecutors later substantiated.

Mr. Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison.

Mr. Cohen had several months before he was to report to prison. Mr. Davis suggested he use them to get his story out on a bigger stage.

He introduced Mr. Cohen to Rep. Elijah Cummings, the House Oversight Committee chair and a lion in the Democratic caucus, who Mr. Davis had known for decades. Mr. Cummings, a man deeply influenced by church teachings, was skeptical, but Mr. Davis told him it was about redemption, reminding him that he often counseled that all sinners can be redeemed.

It took time for Mr. Davis to persuade Mr. Cohen to testify he was concerned about attacks on his family but he ultimately agreed. In February 2019, Mr. Cummings announced that Mr. Cohen would be the sole witness at an unusual public hearing discussing the 45th president.

Even before he arrived, Mr. Trumps allies tried to intimidate him. Representative Matt Gaetz, a Republican from Florida, posted on Twitter an accusation that Mr. Cohen had been unfaithful to his wife and she might not be loyal while he was in prison.

But when he assumed a seat at a witness table for what would become a daylong event, he appeared prepared for the onslaught. He fought back, potentially foreshadowing how he might respond to attacks from Mr. Trumps lawyers on the witness stand in the Manhattan case.

By coming today, I have caused my family to be the target of personal, scurrilous attacks by the president and his lawyer trying to intimidate me from appearing before this panel, Mr. Cohen said in opening remarks at the congressional hearing. Mr. Trump called me a rat for choosing to tell the truth, much like a mobster would do when one of his men decides to cooperate with the government.

As one Republican tried to rattle him, Mr. Cohen replied sternly, Shame on you.

And Mr. Cohen delivered a striking prediction about what might happen the following year: Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power, he said.

In May 2019, Mr. Cohen began serving time at a minimum security facility at Otisville, N.Y. It was there that he began to meet with the Manhattan district attorneys office.

Although Mr. Cohen was released a year later on a medical furlough, he was soon thrown back in prison by the Trump administrations Bureau of Prisons, after he refused to agree to not write a book, something he was doing.

A judge soon ordered him released, saying the move was retaliatory. He has told friends that he spent 51 days overall in solitary confinement.

By early 2022, Mr. Cohen was home from prison and his visits with prosecutors moved to their offices in Lower Manhattan. This year, he seemed to visit almost weekly, staging impromptu news conferences outside to tell reporters that his former boss was in trouble.

Mr. Cohen is hardly a perfect witness. Mr. Trumps lawyers will undoubtedly attack his character and invoke his criminal record. Some appear eager to cross-examine him.

This week, at the request of Mr. Trumps lawyers, one of Mr. Cohens former legal advisers testified before the grand jury in hopes of undercutting Mr. Cohens credibility. The witness, Robert J. Costello, briefly advised Mr. Cohen when he was facing the federal investigation in 2018, but they had a falling out as Mr. Cohen began taking public swipes at Mr. Trump.

Mr. Costello, who was close with Mr. Trumps legal team at the time, said he told the grand jury that Mr. Cohen was a liar. Mr. Cohen, in turn, said on MSNBC that Mr. Costello lacks for any sense of veracity.

His cable news appearances, in which he makes off-the-cuff remarks about Mr. Trump and the investigation, have become quite frequent. Even the prosecutors who are relying on Mr. Cohen and have decided to stake a large part of their case on his testimony occasionally shake their heads at his media presence, according to a person close to the case.

But Mr. Cohen, who has said he feels the need to defend himself publicly, has largely won the at least qualified approval of the district attorneys office. In his book, Mark F. Pomerantz, the prosecutor who helped lead the investigation until early 2022, wrote that Mr. Cohen had impressed him as smart but manipulative.

He struck me as a somewhat feral creature, Mr. Pomerantz continued. Most importantly, I thought he was telling the truth.

Mr. Pomerantz argued that Mr. Cohen would play well with jurors, and that his anger at Mr. Trump could be explained: He was angry with Trump because Trump had seduced Cohen into his criminal orbit, and Cohen had been the only one of Trumps enablers to have gone to prison. Cohen was angry with himself for allowing himself to be seduced by Trump.

Mr. Cohens comprehensive knowledge of the hush-money case is likely another draw for prosecutors. The former fixer could connect all the dots that led to the payment. He liaised with each witness, and with Mr. Trump himself.

On the first day of his grand jury testimony this month, when Mr. Cohen stopped outside the courthouse to entertain questions from reporters, he harkened back to what he had told the judge five years earlier.

This is all about accountability, he said. He needs to be held accountable for his dirty deeds.

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Michael Cohens Long Arc From Trump Ally to Chief Antagonist - The New York Times

A hearing was held in a Washington, D.C. federal court Thursday to consider arguments about whether former Vice President Mike Pence must testify before a federal grand jury about his dealings with then-President Donald Trump around Jan. 6.

Among the attorneys representing Trump was Evan Corcoran, who's been involved in his own ongoing legal bid to avoid testifying before the grand jury.

Lawyers for Pence and Trump were seen going into a closed door hearing before the court's new Chief Judge James Jeb Boasberg in the late morning. Boasberg is presiding over legal disputes involving special counsel Jack Smith's dual investigation into Trump's role in the attack on the U.S. Capitol and handling of documents with classified markings in his Florida home.

They were seen leaving the courthouse roughly 90 minutes later.

Smith issued a subpoena for Pence's testimony last month.

Lawyers for Trump argue Pence can't testify about their dealings surrounding the riot at the U.S. Capitol because of executive privilege. Pence has argued he's immune from testifying because of legal protections for lawmakers, because he was acting as president of the Senate during the Jan. 6 Electoral College vote count rather than as a member of the executive branch.

Filings and hearings in the case have been kept under seal.

Corcoran has separately been fighting Smith's attempts to force him to testify about his own dealings with Trump in the documents case.

Boasberg's predecessor, Judge Beryl Howell, ruled last week that Corcoran must testify under the crime fraud exception, which would let prosecutors sidestep protections afforded to Trump through attorney-client privilege.

Corcoran appealed that ruling, but the appeals court denied that bid late Wednesday, records show.

He's expected to testify before the panel as soon as Friday.

NBC Newsreportedin mid-February that Smith had been seeking to compel Corcoran to testify.

Corcoran had instructed another Trump lawyer, Christina Bobb, to sign a written statement in June after Trump was hit with a subpoena demanding the return of government documents asserting to Justice Department officials that a diligent search for classified documents in Trump's Florida home had turned up no additional material.

The FBI executed a search warrant at the property in August and found found over 100 additional documents with classified markings.

Dareh Gregorian is a politics reporter for NBC News.

Daniel Barnes reports for NBC News, based in Washington.

Ryan J. Reilly is a justice reporter for NBC News.

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Trump, Pence lawyers go before judge in dispute with DOJ over testimony - NBC News

MSNBCs Joe Scarborough slammed former President Donald Trump for fundraising off his potential arrest.

It was all a grift, said Scarborough, the Morning Joe co-host who used to be a GOP member of Congress.

Trumps campaign hauled in $1.5 million in donations after he claimed over the weekend hed be arrested Tuesday in the Manhattan district attorneys probe of hush money paid to porn actor Stormy Daniels.

Tuesday came and went, though, and Trump remained uncharged.

What do you make of this grifting thing, where Donald Trump he knew he wasnt going to be charged Tuesday but he went ahead and did it as a fundraising grift? Scarborough asked on Thursdays Morning Joe.

Trump wants to be handcuffed because that means more money, Scarborough added, referencing a report that Trump was actually relishing the media circus surrounding his legal situation.

Its always a grift, Scarborough said later, before impersonating Trump: Oh, theyre about to arrest me. Send me money. Theyre about to put me in handcuffs. Send me money.

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