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Democrats Debate: Include Pro-Lifers or Not? – National Review

Rep. Ben Ray Lujn (D-N.M.), head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, says he is willing to fund pro-life Democratic candidates for the House. He is getting fierce blowback. Former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean says he wont donate to the group if it funds pro-lifers. Journalist Lauren Ducasaysthat the DCCC decision is a betrayal of every woman who has ever supported the Democratic party. (Thirty-fourpercent of Democrats believe abortion should be banned, or banned with exceptions for rape, incest, and threats to the mothers life; polling has generally not found a significant difference in views of abortion between men and women.)

The last time the Democrats took control of the House from the Democrats, in 2006, it was in part by recruiting a few candidates who presented themselves as pro-life Democrats to run in socially conservative districts: Heath Shuler in North Carolina, Joe Donnelly and Brad Ellsworth in Indiana. Democrats also touted theirsupport for Bob Caseys Senate run in Pennsylvania as a sign of their new tolerance. The chairman of the DNC at the time argued for it. His name was Howard Dean.

The party has moved left on abortion, as on other issues, since then.

One question for those Democrats who want to kick any remaining pro-life Democrats out of their party: Are they prepared to withhold all funding for now-senatorJoe Donnelly and Sen. Joe Manchin (W. Va.), both of whom are on the federal advisory board of Democrats for Life of America and up for re-election next year?

(I wrote about the last round of this debate here.)

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Meet the Democrats Running on Single-Payer Health Care – RollingStone.com

In the wee hours of Friday morning, the latest Republican crusade to repeal Obamacare ended in defeat, as John McCain joined GOP Senate colleagues Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins in casting no votes on a "skinny repeal" measure. With characteristic bluster, President Trump tweeted shortly after the vote, "3 Republicans and 48 Democrats let the American people down. As I said from the beginning, let ObamaCare implode, then deal. Watch!" In the end, the GOP promise to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act so far appears to have done nothing beyond generate scaryCBO reports and threatening presidential tweets, while further destabilizing the insurance markets.

In response to Republican attacks, Democrats circled around Obamacare, making it clear that repealing the ACA would result in catastrophe, with millions of Americans losing their insurance.

At the same time, more progressive voices see the Republican debacle as an opportunity for Democrats to push bolder policy ahead of the 2018 midterms. As he recentlyraced aroundthe country to combat the GOP effort, Bernie Sanders still the most popular politician in America stressed that the ultimate goal should be a single-payer system, where the government covers health care costs for all Americans. Fellow Sen. Elizabeth Warren has also advised Democratsto get behind the idea and run on single-payer in 2018.

And there are already candidates heeding that call. Randy Bryce a burly iron-worker with a thick mustache and the popular @IronStache Twitter account plans to unseat Paul Ryan by attacking the House Speaker's repeal-and-replace bill and pushing for Medicare for All. His campaign kicked off to an auspicious start when his first ad, on health care, went viral. He's not surprised it was so popular. "I see it as an intergenerational issue it's something that affects everybody," he tells Rolling Stone. "Everybody can agree that it's hard to do anything unless you are healthy."

Amy Vilela is primarying a progressive Nevada Democrat because he refused to sign on to a Medicare for All bill. A businesswoman by trade, Vilela never thought she'd run for political office. But losing a child changes you in ways you can't imagine, especially when you're sure she'd still be alive if America had a functional health care system. "A $1,000 test would have allowed doctors to diagnose her and save her life," Vilela says. "Your care in this country is solely determined by what kind of insurance you have."

In 2014, Vilela's 22-year-old daughter Shalynne went to the Centennial Hills Hospital Emergency room displaying classic symptoms of deep vein thrombosis, a blood clot in her leg. The family says hospital staff refused Shalynne's pleas for treatment because she told them she didn't have insurance, sending her away despite the 8-out-of-10 pain she reported. A few weeks later, the clot travelled to her lungs, causing a massive pulmonary embolism. The last thing she'd googled on her phone was "symptoms of a heart attack" so her mom thinks she spent her last moments panicked and in pain.

Vilela got to the hospital after her daughter had already lost consciousness; she remembers the lead smell of blood in the room as Shalynne sank into brain death. She made the unbearable decision to take her daughter off life support so her organs could help others. "She always talked about how much she respected organ donors," Vilela says.

At first, Vilela went crazy with grief and could barely get out of bed. Then she decided to fight to share Shalynne's story so people would understand that no one's safe in a profit-driven health care system. "Being a businesswoman in the finance field, I understand profit motive," she says. "My experience has made me understand more fully that there are things in this country that should not have profit in them." She used her daughter's story to lobby hard against the Republican effort to kill Obamacare, but after a heated exchange with freshman Rep. Ruben Kihuen she decided that she and the Democratic Party needed to do more and demand Medicare for All.

"They had to pull me away from her casket because I was screaming and crying, and I knew that was the last moment that I was going to touch my daughter forever," Vilela told Kihuen during the town hall. Kihuen nodded empathetically. But when she asked why he hadn't put his name on HR 676, the Medicare for All bill, Kihuen countered that his priority is defending the Affordable Care Act against Republican attacks. Amy pointed out that the ACA didn't save her daughter.

It was a tough decision, she says, but she decided to primary Kihuen because she believes universal health care is a more realistic goal than many elected officials seem to realize. "We have more power than we assume. We can come together as a people and help create the transformation needed to achieve Medicare for All. We don't have time to waste," she says.

Kihuan supports health care as a human right, but the idea that Medicare for All is an absurd leftist impossibility continues to permeate the discourse around health care reform. Exhibiting a suspicious amount of concern for the Democratic Party's future, the right-wing National Review argued that if Democrats embraced single-payer, they'd be in danger of following the "Bernie Sanders wing of their party off the proverbial cliff." In another strange twist in the final hours of Republicans' repeal-and-replace effort last week, GOP lawmakers goaded Democratswith a sham proposal for single-payer.

But 33 percent of Americans support single-payer, a five percent increase since January, according to a Pew poll published in June. That number might suggest many aren't sure what single-payer means, since the same survey showed 60 percent of Americans think the federal government should provide health care coverage to all Americans. Even the Harvard Business Review, hardly a bastion of leftism, has argued that America might be ready for a single-payer system.

Like many Americans, Paul Ryan's challenger, Randy Bryce, worries about health insurance, which is why he thinks it's a winning issue against the House speaker, who appears singularly devoted to taking away health coverage from people.

Bryce is in a union, which means he can afford insurance for his young son but he only has enough money for expenses if he works enough hours. In the winter, that can be difficult.

"I'm concerned about my son," Bryce says. "Let's say he goes sledding. What if he runs into a tree and gets hurt? Am I going to have to skip other bills to pay for his medicine?"

A cancer survivor, Bryce didn't have insurance when he battled his disease. He was lucky enough to get help at a local medical college. "I was like a guinea pig!" he jokes.

Bryce's mother, who has multiple sclerosis (and who starred in his viral campaign ad), has insurance because her husband was a cop. What if she'd gotten an incurable disease without insurance, he wonders?

Since the launch of his campaign, Bryce says he's gotten heart-warming letters from older women like his mother thanking him for running against Ryan. "You gotta get rid of this guy, he's trying to take away our health care," he says they write as they send in their donations, which tend to be around $5. It's not a lot of money, but it means a lot to him. "I get so much energy being committed to getting rid of Paul Ryan," he says. "Because, we're not 'losing' health care they're actively trying to take it away from us."

Bryce served in the U.S. Army in Honduras, so he's seen what a banana republic looks like. He says America is heading in that direction, and he wants to stop it by fighting what he calls "banana Republicans" like Ryan. In a move that might signal concern from Ryan's team, they're targeting Bryce as a "liberal agitator." But he's more than happy to take on that label. "It takes agitation to get the dirt out," he says. "I'm part of the agitate, educate, organize model."

As for whether his position on health appears too extreme in the current climate, Bryce says,"If they consider it 'too far left' for people to have the ability to see a doctor, then that's more of a problem with where they're coming from than with my position."

Bryce also wonders why Ryan hasn't shown his face in a traditional town hall in nearly two years."It's not that he doesn't have time. He's traveling all around the country going to these fundraisers. People are upset about that," Bryce says. "Meanwhile, he's trying to take away health care. I don't know whose 'House' he claims to be speaking for, but it's not my house.

"He's gone the opposite direction of what we need," he says. "He doesn't care about us."

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Democrats plan to block possible Trump recess appointments – ABC News

Democrats are worried President Donald Trump wants to remove the nation's top lawyer, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, during the August recess to make way for someone who would be willing to fire the special prosecutor leading the charge into the 2016 election hacking investigation without first being confirmed by the Senate.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-New York, said Monday on the Senate floor that "if such a scenario were to pass, we would have a constitutional crisis on our hands."

In order to remove the possibility of Trump making a recess appointment while the Senate is out of session during the August state-work period, Schumer said he expects the Senate will hold pro forma sessions throughout the upcoming recess to prevent a recess appointment from happening.

Schumer said he and his colleagues will be ready to block a potential recess appointment by utilizing the procedural tool that has already been used this year during Trump's presidency, most recently during the Fourth of July holiday. Pro forma sessions were also notably used during Barack Obama's presidency to prevent him from making recess appointments.

The pro forma sessions are usually held every three days and while any senator present can open and preside over a pro forma session, the attendance of other senators isn't required. Most pro forma sessions happen before a nearly empty chamber.

If the Senate convenes every three days for a few minutes or seconds, it is not technically in recess, therefore Trump wouldnt be able to push through a recess appointment to replace Sessions.

A senator will have to gavel in and gavel out for a pro forma session to work. The leaders office doesnt usually announce the lineup ahead of time, but the duty usually falls to the senator who happens to be in town that day or in the states closest in proximity to the nation's capital including Virginia, Maryland and Delaware.

Democrats and Republican senators came out in droves to defend Sessions last week following Trump's attack on the former Alabama senator and warned Trump from making any moves to replace him.

In a series of tweets aimed at Sessions last week, Trump called the attorney general beleaguered and said he had a very weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes.

But on Monday, the White House walked back the speculation that Trump was thinking of firing him.

There is no announcement on that and the president has 100 percent confidence in his Cabinet, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said during an on-camera briefing.

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Silicon Valley’s Foolish Amnesty Push – National Review

In 2013, a group of tech heavyweights, led by Facebooks Mark Zuckerberg and including fellow oligarchs Eric Schmidt (Google) and Bill Gates (Microsoft), founded FWD.us, a lobbying and advocacy group that would go on to spend millions of dollars promoting comprehensive immigration reform. Of course, the founders had not anticipated the 2016 election of Donald Trump as president.

Neither had a bevy of pundits, some of whom, in the wake of Trumps victory, have attempted to recalibrate witness longtime immigration enthusiast Fareed Zakaria speaking about the need for Democrats to take less absolutist positions on immigration and to put more emphasis on admitting skilled workers. But more typical was the reaction of those such as the New York Times Bret Stephens, a house conservative. In a satirical column, Stephens touted the alleged superiority of immigrants to native-born Americans focusing, inter alia, on cherry-picked data showing their allegedly superior educational achievements and entrepreneurial skills.

FWD.us and Zuckerberg began by emphasizing skilled immigrants but then backed off as critics on the left accused them of elitism. The bigger problem were trying to address is ensuring the 11 million undocumented folks living in this country now and similar folks in the future are treated fairly, Zuckerberg wrote on Facebook.

But do we need comprehensive immigration reform to maintain our technological and entrepreneurial leadership? Will Americas technology and innovation base be devastated by President Trumps crackdown on illegal immigration, his attempts to reform legal immigration, and his temporary ban on admitting travelers from a small number of countries with governments known to be unstable or hostile to the U.S.? Data on immigrants in Silicon Valley suggest that the answer is no.

Stephens lambastes those who wish to enforce our immigration laws with respect to so-called DREAMers, who came to this country illegally as youths. But if past trends hold, those who will benefit from amnesty programs and comprehensive immigration reform are unlikely to be a significant share of our next generation of top-flight engineers and scientists.

Instead, the amnesty advocated by Stephens and Zuckerberg would disproportionately benefit the 28 percent of immigrants who have not finished high school (the figure for the native-born is 8 percent). These include the foreign-born house cleaners and taxi drivers who are already half of the work force in those sectors.

Unsurprisingly, the current approach to amnesty has had a catastrophic effect on the employment prospects of young American-born citizens whose formal education stopped at or before graduation from high school. Their employment rate fell from 66 percent in 2000 to 53 percent in 2015, as low-skilled immigration to the U.S. soared.

The typical technology company saw little benefit from these immigrants. The data show that the most successful technology companies are disproportionately founded by native-born Americans and that the immigrants who do found top tech companies tend to have arrived already highly skilled and educated. They are seldom undocumented, refugees, or members of any of the other immigrant categories prioritized by the Left.

Consider the children of these highly skilled and educated immigrants. The National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP), which promotes increased immigration, looked at the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search and found that, of the 40 finalists, 33 had immigrant parents. Of those 33, all but three had parents who were at some point living in the U.S. on H-1B visas, temporary cards reserved primarily for workers with skills in high demand in the technology industry. On the surface, this seems to be a huge endorsement of increased immigration, which is how NFAP frames it.

But these highly skilled immigrants are wildly unrepresentative of U.S. immigrants as a whole. Of the 40 finalists, 25 had parents from India and China. Three were of mixed U.S.immigrant parentage (and were therefore eligible for citizenship). If we did nothing more than include the children of U.S. citizens and of Chinese and Indian holders of H-1B visas, we would have covered more than 90 percent of U.S. prize winners. It appears that none arrived illegally.

Even that, however, overstates the significance of employer-based H-1Bs. Of the nine eventual award winners who were children of immigrants, only one appears to have parents who came to the U.S. directly for employment. The others graduated from U.S. universities, usually with advanced degrees. All but one were from India, which at the time of their entry contributed only 2 percent of the annual immigration to the United States.

The Trump administration has floated commonsense proposals for H-1B reform. Currently under review by the Departments of State, Labor, and Homeland Security, they would raise standards that a tech immigrant would have to meet, and they would restrict his ability to take lower-end jobs.

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The false claim that the United States must embrace comprehensive immigration reform to maintain its leading role in science is a simple continuation of the rhetoric we heard in the presidential campaign. Last year, The Hill breathlessly announced (and liberals relentlessly retweeted) that all six Americans who had just been named Nobel laureates in the sciences and economics were immigrants. But of these six immigrants, five came from Great Britain, one from Finland. Together, those countries currently contribute less than 2 percent of U.S. immigrants annually. Moreover, all of the six came to the U.S. as accomplished academics whom America would have welcomed regardless of their national origin.

How about when budding students who are the children of accomplished immigrants grow up to be scientists and engineers? Immigrants undoubtedly play a vital role in Silicon Valley, four in ten of whose residents are now foreign-born. But what is striking about the Valleys most successful companies is not how many were founded by immigrants, but how few.

Of the twelve U.S.-based Internet companies that are among the worlds 25 largest in sales, none had a primary founder who immigrated to the U.S. as an adult. Only two had a primary co-founder who was an immigrant. Both of those men immigrated to the U.S. as young children and teamed up with a U.S.-born co-founder. They were not trained abroad but rather were educated in the American system. The father of Google co-founder Sergey Brin was a successful mathematician in the former Soviet Union despite having to endure anti-Semitic discrimination. Ebay founder Pierre Omidayar, the only foreign-born person to start one of the Silicon Valley whales solo, immigrated as a child from France, where his parents were distinguished academics. Such highly skilled immigrant parents were welcomed to the United States legally.

The record is similar when we look at the next generation of Facebooks and Googles. Of the twelve technology companies valued at $5 billion or more in private markets according to CB Insights, only three had a primary co-founder who was an immigrant: Palantirs Peter Thiel, whose father was a chemical engineer, came to the U.S. from Germany as a baby and founded the company with American-born co-founders. Elon Musk, the founder of SpaceX and Tesla, immigrated from Canada to the University of Pennsylvania. Stripe was founded by two brothers from Ireland who attended Harvard and MIT. All would have been let in under any reasonable policy of merit-based immigration.

In 2016 the National Foundation for American Policy looked at private companies valued at $1 billion or more. Here, the demographics of founders and co-founders who were immigrants sharply diverged from those of Americas immigrants overall. Of 87 companies, 44 had at least one immigrant co-founder, for a total of 61 individuals. Thirty-seven of them were from just four countries: India, Israel, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Eleven were from elsewhere in Western Europe, which currently accounts for less than 10 percent of overall immigration to the United States. In this sample, too, the immigrants who can be seen as leaders in the U.S. technology revolution do not resemble the broader immigrant population in terms of their educational background or country of origin. We are perfectly capable of finding and attracting these immigrants without giving up on borders or otherwise allowing mass immigration.

The H-1B system itself needs reform. In theory, H-1B visas are supposed to bring in workers with skills that Americans dont have. In practice, the system is rife with abuse. CBS News recently reported that San Francisco State University fired all of its IT workers and replaced them with cheaper workers from abroad. It did so with the help of a regulation issued late in Obamas second term. In 2016, more than 180,000 H-1B visas were issued. That number is up from 135,000 just four years earlier.

Whatever the current problems with H-1B visas, however, many recipients are skilled workers we should want to welcome. Yet talk to folks in the Valley and you will hear about mediocre H-1B holders hired simply for their low cost. Several reforms, suggested by Trump and others, would dramatically increase the minimum H-1B salary to make sure we were importing only the best and brightest workers. Such reforms would allow the U.S. to continue to attract the most highly skilled immigrants from around the world while admitting fewer technology workers than it does today, to the benefit of American workers who would take jobs for which immigrant labor is not truly needed.

The data show that enforcing our immigration laws and dramatically reducing the admission of unskilled and low-skilled immigrants, including refugees (many of whom are not truly fleeing violence but rather seeking economic opportunity), would not reduce our competitiveness. We do not need millions of nurses, gardeners, and restaurant workers coming to the U.S. to displace millions of Americans of all ethnic backgrounds and disproportionately co-ethnics of the new arrivals who are fully capable of doing these jobs. (Yes, the native-born may command higher wages, but when did it become a core conservative value that we dont want working-class Americans of all backgrounds to be able to earn a better living through hard work?)

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Highly skilled immigrants will continue to be a key part of Silicon Valley for the foreseeable future. And that is as it should be. But by and large they are identifiable by their academic or professional accomplishments before they set foot in the U.S. Even in Silicon Valley, we could substantially reduce the level of immigration with little effect on competitiveness. A great deal of benefit would accrue to American engineers and computer scientists of all ethnicities and income levels.

If Silicon Valley is dedicated to making sure America continues to recruit the worlds best and brightest workers, it will find a willing partner in the current administration. If the Valley continues to assume, against all empirical evidence, that high levels of unskilled immigration and cheap tech sweatshop workers are essential to maintain U.S. competitiveness, no one should be surprised if the Trump administration turns a cold shoulder.

Meanwhile, FWD.us continues to advocate amnesty. With America facing so many serious challenges, were not content to nibble around the edges, reads the FWD.us website. We push for policies that overhaul entrenched systems and benefit large numbers of people. Its an admirable goal. But the best way to reach it is to build an immigration system that attracts the most professionally qualified immigrants, gives them the greatest possible opportunity to succeed, and does so in a way that benefits all Americans.

And that also means considering immigration in more than just economic terms. Since 2000, Santa Clara and San Mateo counties the heart of Silicon Valley have lost more than 300,000 residents (primarily citizens) and added far more than that number of immigrants. No doubt the Valley has birthed tremendous companies during that time and made the Zuckerbergs of the world very rich, but at what cost to the average American who lived here 20 years ago? If an outcome in which almost one out of seven residents is desperate enough to leave the area in less than 20 years is defined as success, one shudders to think what failure might look like.

-- Jeremy Carl is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. This piece appeared in the July 31, 2017, issue of National Review.

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Why churches still matter for immigration reform – The Christian Century

Ali Noorani. Photo by Joel Geertsma.

Ali Noorani is the director of the National Immigration Forum, an organization that highlights immigrants contributions to American society and seeks to reform immigration law. He was previously director of the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition. Nooranis recently published book There Goes the Neighborhood: How Communities Overcome Prejudice and Meet the Challenge of American Immigration draws on his efforts to engage a wide range of conversation partners on the issue.

Whats gone wrong in the debate over immigration?

For years the debate has been about policy or politics. But for the majority of Americans, immigration is about culture and values. At the National Immigration Forum, we find that peoples first questions about immigration are: Is my culture going to change? Are my values going to change? Is my neighborhood going to change? We have to understand the cultural debate.

What do you mean by cultural debate?

People struggle with this issue through the lens of their faith, or through their belief that this is a nation of laws, or through a belief in a free market. Faith, a legal framework, capitalismthese are elements of American culture and these elements need to be engaged. In this case, I think the church in particular has a crucial role to play.

What does it take to engage these subjects?

It is first of all a matter of understanding where people are coming from. You have to listen to the language and listen to the concerns. After that, you can develop a way to have the conversation. Ive learned how important the language of welcoming the stranger is in a faith context, and Ive also learned why people are committed to wanting to live in a nation of laws that are obeyed. I appreciate the tension that sometimes exists between these two commitments.

Does the conversation on values depend on Americans sharing the same culture or set of values?

I am not sure that we do share a common definition of what it means to be American, but I think the way we recapture that common definition and understanding is not through the political process. We cant depend on political parties to provide moral clarity. We need to work through churches, schools, the military, businesses. That is where people are either forced to or given the opportunity to get out of their bubbles.

Do churches help people get out of their bubbles?

I write in the book about how First Baptist Church in Spartanburg, South Carolina, is welcoming Syrian refugees regardless of their religious identity. Spartanburg is small-town South Carolina. I think we can find lots of examples where churches are creating these bridges. In fact, Im not sure there is a more important institution in America than the church in resolving these differences.

What is the role of clergy and religious leaders in this conversation?

Russell Moore of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, Archbishop Thomas Wenski, and other faith leaders have shown me that the job of faith leaders is not to speak to matters of policy but to speak to the values and the cultural framework underneath a policy. If we ask a pastor to speak to a policy detail, we are actually taking one of the most trusted players off the field. Pastors can educate their congregations, but on matters of values, not about a particular visa program.

Do you find yourself, as a result of these conversations, thinking about policy in a different way?

My policy framework isnt different. The goal is still a functioning immigration system with legalization and eventual citizenship for the undocumented. But I realize we have to do a much better job of communicating how that framework of reform maps onto values that people are expressing. If we want conservative voters in the Midwest to understand why immigration is a benefit to them, we need to understand what their fears and hopes are. Over time, you can have a conversation where you move to clarity about what you agree on and what you disagree on. Once you have established that level of trust, you can look for a common set of principles and ways to share those common principles with networks.

Can you give an example of how this works?

In 2010 Utah was slated to be the next place after Arizona where a show me your papers law for immigrants was going to go into effect. Conservative faith leaders, law enforcement officials, and business leaders came together to find an alternative route. They developed what came to be called the Utah Compact, consisting of principlesnot policiesrelated to family, security, and the free market, principles that resonated deeply with Utahans. These principles became the rallying point for the initial group of signatories that included the Catholic Church, the Republican attorney general, faith leaders from the Mormon community, and the Utah Chamber of Commerce. It quickly moved into the legislature. The Utah Compact stopped the show me your papers law in its tracks.

Legislators recognized that their constituents did not want a replica of the Arizona law. They wanted something that fit the culture and values of Utah. So we could move forward on immigration if we could bring the right people into the room and articulate the right principles.

What is the future of this strategy?

Since 2011, the forum has put a priority on engaging faith leaders, law enforcement officials, and business leaders. We stumbled on the phrase Bible, Badges, and Business, based on the idea that if you hold a Bible, wear a badge, or own a business, you want a common-sense solution to the immigration system. We now have a network of trusted leaders who look to the forum for how to move forward.

Coming out of the election, I wondered if the network would stick together. A large number of people in our network voted for Trump. While a few have questioned whether we really need comprehensive immigration reform after the election, 99 percent of the network has stuck together. This network is finding its voice. For example, the Evangelical Immigration Table sent the Trump administration a letter urging it to help the Iraqi Christian community, which is being threatened with deportation. That might not have happened right after the election. The law enforcement community is also trying to find its voice, as Congress is considering enforcement-only legislation that they dont fully support.

How far out is comprehensive immigration reform?

Far. But if there is one president who could help pass comprehensive immigration reform, it is Donald Trump. He has an incredible opportunity to fix this problem. I am not sure his base will allow him to do that, but maybe there will be an opportunity. For the president, its a question of political will.

Could you offer me a story that gives you hope?

In Spartanburg we recently held an event at the Hispanic Alliance. There were more than 80 people in the room, and they included not only the Hispanic community, but representatives of the Baptist community, the local sheriffs office, and the business community. They all wanted to advance a constructive dialogue on immigrants and immigration in South Carolina, one of the most conservative states in the country.

A version of this article appears in the August 16 print edition under the title Talking together about immigration.

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